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  1. #11
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    aesteval's Avatar
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    Tae Sylphanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisotte View Post
    I also get gil spam in Ishgard, Idyllshire, hell even Hinterlands. Far less common than in the housing wards and original zones but still is a thing in HW areas.
    I think they were referring to the /say spam around marketboards.

    That said, it's not that they CAN'T get into Ishgard, it's more along the lines of it's a waste of time getting a spambot to Ishard given how obviously bannable their actions are. The bots to be concerned about in HW areas aren't spamming, they're generating gil and trying to fly under the radar.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaelseMikiro View Post
    1) Make crystals (shards) no longer used for crafting, so RMT gatherers make less gil from us on the MB
    The bots appear to have moved onto ephemeral and legendary nodes. So they're into crystals, clusters, aethersands, and other high level mats now. The maybe good news is that the suspected bot that I've seen doesn't have high enough gathering stats to collect HQ legendary mats.
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  3. #13
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaelseMikiro View Post
    2) Increase the gil players earn in the new expansion areas to reduce the necessity for using RMT
    My apologies, but this doesn't help the issue one bit - it only means the prices on the market board go up.

    Money =/= Buying power, that's why we have exchange rates. If you print money, you'll just devalue it to the point people swap goods directly, rather than using money, because money has no real value. There is a slight difference in the ingame world in that gil does have an innate value - repairs, teleports, housing plots. But any market transaction (including carries) works analogue to the real world and that's where gil gets used the most.
    If you don't want inflation and no actual effect on RMT demand, the only alternative is redistribution. And that means giving people a reason or even forcing them to trade gil back and forth, rather than accumulating it.

    Good luck >_>
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  4. #14
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    Nhai Tayuun
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    Quote Originally Posted by aesteval View Post
    That said, it's not that they CAN'T get into Ishgard, it's more along the lines of it's a waste of time getting a spambot to Ishard given how obviously bannable their actions are.
    The bots to be concerned about in HW areas aren't spamming, they're generating gil and trying to fly under the radar.
    They can't get into Ishgard on an ARR license
    So additionally to the (very low) cost of an ARR license they'd need a serious time investment AND the extra cost of a (not quite as cheap yet) HW expansion.

    The bots I've seen in HW areas were all regular players who had a bot running to do the gathering for them, not "corporate" farmbots which tend to stay in ARR even after hitting 50.
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisotte View Post
    I also get gil spam in Ishgard, Idyllshire, hell even Hinterlands. Far less common than in the housing wards and original zones but still is a thing in HW areas.
    But I bet only as a /tell message, not as a /say message.
    /tell messsages can reach you everywhere, except in instances
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  6. #16
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    I believe they're working on a context menu report feature at least...
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  7. #17
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    They can't get into Ishgard on an ARR license
    So additionally to the (very low) cost of an ARR license they'd need a serious time investment AND the extra cost of a (not quite as cheap yet) HW expansion.

    The bots I've seen in HW areas were all regular players who had a bot running to do the gathering for them, not "corporate" farmbots which tend to stay in ARR even after hitting 50.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    The best reason to oppose the suggestions about story skipping or MSQ collapsing to facilitate easy access to new areas. Forcing all players to go through MSQ, as well as have the expansion license, definitely cut's down on the number of RMT Bots outside of ARR zones.
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  8. #18
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Mateus
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    On Mateus I still have to leave my tells disabled because of all the whispers I'll get over the course of a minute. I've had to keep tells disabled for over a year at this point due to the RMT whispers.
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    Morri Umi
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    Every time I go to Limsa I have to blacklist a /say spamming gil seller. Sometimes there's more than one.
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    Alzrius Nremyn
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    Midgardsormr
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    I recall the dev team mentioning the creation of a streamlined method of reporting such bots a while back, but have heard nothing of it since.
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