Monk raid utility. Not popular class

[Jonnycbad]

Didn't MNK crap all over DRG in 2.x to the point where nobody bothered with DRG because they had no raid utility? Now MNK is crying because DRK has Delirium and DRG has Battle Litany? Funny how the tables turn. On the other hand, MNK has higher single target DPS than DRG, so that should balance it out, no?

[lulunami]

Didn't MNK crap all over DRG in 2.x to the point where nobody bothered with DRG because they had no raid utility? Now MNK is crying because DRK has Delirium and DRG has Battle Litany? Funny how the tables turn. On the other hand, MNK has higher single target DPS than DRG, so that should balance it out, no?

MNK were preferred over DRG in 2.x because DRG could not survive mechanics in Final Coil and were more adversely affected by missed positional attacks than Monk. NIN was also super OP so the DPS increase of disembowel for BRD was not considered. DRG was buffed and NIN was nerfed in a subsequent patch.

[zuzu-bq]

Didn't MNK crap all over DRG in 2.x to the point where nobody bothered with DRG because they had no raid utility? Now MNK is crying because DRK has Delirium and DRG has Battle Litany? Funny how the tables turn. On the other hand, MNK has higher single target DPS than DRG, so that should balance it out, no?

No, NINs did (at 2.4 launch) for a few factors that players could both abuse and cry over SE's design mistakes for that patch. While MNK Dragon Kick was extremely important for progression making them almost mandatory the other slot was a choice between NIN and DRG, DRGs couldn't survive some free damage aoes having the same gear as the other jobs had and NINs were just too strong when they released having poison affect their Jutsus' magical damage while buffed by Foes and having almost if not actual infinite TP.

On the Delirium topic: while DRK has this utility, its his only utility aside from a RNG-based Storm's Path-like ability, so you can't rely on Reprisal. Well, they have nice damage I guess thats considered as utility for a tank job. And if you bring a MNK and DRK together, you let the DRK freer to Soul Eater and gain a powerfull mantra (and their second wind is quite usefull too, just a a tad more situational) wich are MNK's other utilities. So you can't just say Delirium fades MNKs. I'm bringing you a vision from a player that Mained heals from Second Coil to Midas about how powerful and handy MNK defensive utility is.