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    Player Windi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    What is a CIS white male o.o?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender

    basically people whose gender identity matches with those assigned at birth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windi View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender

    basically people whose gender identity matches with those assigned at birth.
    I fail to see why this requires a special label since it is the biological default. It appears to me that anyone talking about Cisgender, Cis-male or Cis-female is doing so because they have an agenda because there's no neec to make those distinctions, just as there is no need (or should not be) to make other sorts of distinction. People are people. In game i'll address people based on their name and apparent gender, just as I will IRL, unless they ask me to do otherwise.
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    Player Windi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    I fail to see why this requires a special label since it is the biological default. .
    No it isn't.
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windi View Post
    Yeah, it kinda is (a biological default). You are making a huge assumption about what I am saying. I said nothing abou transgender individuals, nor does a biological default rule out exceptions such as transgender, but really you have to be intentionally blind if you cannot accept biological defaults. That does not in any way impune transgender individuals, nor would I do so. I didn't say or imply transgenderism is some phase - as your linked article discusses. The existence of a default condition doesn't exclude other outcomes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
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    This is how I roll. If the character is male, I'mma call you a "he" unless you tell me not too. If you are a female character I will call you a female unless you tell me not to.

    I just assume your gender is your character and that's that. Assuming every character in the game is a male, for example is rude imo or ignorant. Because some people(women) may not want to be branded a male just because "oh catgirl".

    This is my first MMO... as a female, it is really annoying when the most important thing in the entire game is you RL gender! It's all people talk about I feel..

    Put this in spoilers because when I said " people", what I wanted to say was men. Because none of my female friends ever blabber about who's a male or female.
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    Player Windi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
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    You literally just said that cisgender is the biological default, when it actually varies between different people. The article I just linked you is there to prove just that. Either you seem to be confused as to the differences between gender identity and biological sex (the former is the category cisgender belongs to) or I really don't know what.


    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    This is how I roll. If the character is male, I'mma call you a "he" unless you tell me not too. If you are a female character I will call you a female unless you tell me not to.
    Please don't. Being misgendered is one of the most common annoyances a transgender individual has to face. Nothing is wrong with ditching the pronouns and using "they" or "they're" for people you are unsure about. Show some respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windi View Post
    Please don't. Being misgendered is one of the most common annoyances a transgender individual has to face. Nothing is wrong with ditching the pronouns and using "they" or "they're" for people you are unsure about. Show some respect.
    I disagree about this being disrespectful. If anything I find you're the one being disrespectful now because they're trying to respect you by calling you as the gender 'YOU' choose to play as because they don't know who's behind the screen.
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    Last edited by Vivi_Bushido; 09-09-2016 at 05:14 PM.