Veteran rewards going away make other items obtainable

[Komotz]

If they gave out the 1.0 vet items I would most likely delete them. Didn't play at that time and thus I feel I never earned it. I'm fine with waiting to earn my currently available vet rewards. It's all just glamour items, minions or mounts/chocobo barding anyways.

I delete most of them anyways, just takes up inventory/storage space for 'meh' rewards. There was one thing I wanted, and that's the Twintania mount, which I got AFTER WAITING for my referral rewards.

[Kaisinel]

I delete most of them anyways, just takes up inventory/storage space for 'meh' rewards. There was one thing I wanted, and that's the Twintania mount, which I got AFTER WAITING for my vet rewards.

Twintania from recruit friends tho?

[Komotz]

Twintania from recruit friends tho?

Yeeeah that, it's been a long night. so /corrected.

Still it was waiting for that reward instead of having it handed to me.

[Cinno]

Twintania from recruit friends tho?

Regardless he still had to wait for the correct amount of feathers to trade for twintania, verses coming onto the forums and complaining that he shouldnt have to wait for the feathers because #entitled

[Vidu]

Raiders were PROMISED best gear too not just weapon so twine/coat not needed. A8S was cleared in 225ish stuff? So 240 not needed to complete things?

Actually, the best gear was always a mix coming from several sources, its not only ilvl that counts...

And: You still HAVE your "exclusive" gear, as in: the stuff that directly drops from midas.
And I'll remind you again - or better: tell you... - that this is a system that has been in place since second coil and ST. Everyone knew that eventually people would get their upgraded 240 from the 24man raids and again, thats a good thing - specially for people who are only reaching endgame now but want to raid in the next tier etc.
Yes, it is possible to clear those raids with worse gear but to make sure a larger amount of people can take part in that content, they make it easier to get that stuff.

And I cant actually remember that they've ever promised that best gear would ONLY come from raiding. Back in 2.x that was even true for the weapon - one patch the current raid-weapon would be better, the next one a proper relic was (always depending on your class though)

And, btw: I have yet to see some legacy player brag about how they are "superior" because they got their unique chocobo - while your attitude is "No one but ME is supposed to have ilvl240! How dare they continue a system thats in place for one and a half year!"

[Bourne_Endeavor]

The ones being childish are demanding things or trying to have things change for no other reason then they WANT it.

This is a bad argument because it works in reverse. You want things to remain exclusive because you prefer it that way. Therefore, calling someone childish for expressing their preference is hypocritical regardless of your disagreement. Let's be honest, whether we ask for changes or encourage things remain the same, we're doing so because it expressly appeals to our own individual interests. And that's fine. I want to stress that. But own it.

[Vidu]

I delete most of them anyways, just takes up inventory/storage space for 'meh' rewards. There was one thing I wanted, and that's the Twintania mount, which I got AFTER WAITING for my referral rewards.

You know that all the outfits can be stored in the armoire? so they dont take up any space at all! (but sicne you can always "order" them again, its not a huge loss when you delete them, I guess...)

[Lunaxia]

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A tremendous amount of whining, yes. But a great deal of that also comes from entitled vets thinking their Special Legacy Status™ will be profaned in anyway, and it is equally as tiresome.

I don't want it. I couldn't care less. But I understand people who would like it at this stage. Were we months or even a year into the release, I would support legacy items, but as I have said, repeatedly, I think 3 years on is more than enough time to have that sense of "exclusivity." I rarely even see them used, it's always the bird minions now. It's purely a "BUT IT'S MINE" mindset that creates this needless drama.

Forum members here are very fond of stilted metaphors, aren't they? If we're comparing the level of dedication and effort put into competing in the Olympics and the worth of its medals to some mounts you got for paying a sub then I have nothing else to add. May the Fury forgive me for daring to suggest making old items no one bothers with available to others and desecrating the most holy domain of Legacy Players.

[Kaisinel]

Actually, the best gear was always a mix coming from several sources,

And, btw: I have yet to see some legacy player brag about how they are "superior" because they got their unique chocobo - while your attitude is "No one but ME is supposed to have ilvl240! How dare they continue a system thats in place for one and a half year!"

Yes mix of serveral sources is fine because upgrade comes from coil/alex. Base 230 is lore which fine cause can do content 230.

I never said only I entitled to 240 I just say people should have to work for it instead of handed out to them for easy 24 content since you say I shouldn't have mount because ps3 never have 1.0 cause never released.

It ok people can't gets because verison of game which was announced was cancel?

[Vidu]

This is a bad argument because it works in reverse. You want things to remain exclusive because you prefer it that way. Therefore, calling someone childish for expressing their preference is hypocritical regardless of your disagreement. Let's be honest, whether we ask for changes or encourage things remain the same, we're doing so because it expressly appeals to our own individual interests. And that's fine. I want to stress that. But own it.

Well, the problem with your reverse is that we're not only asking for something we want in terms of items etc. but also for the devs to uphold their promise.

And, this might be me, but: If someone is so much of a collector that they get seriously upset about someone having some mounts they cant have, I'm worried...

I remember our discussion about veteran rewards and it was a good one, thank you for that btw! I hope you dont mind if I share your "conclusion" (or at least what I believe it could be) from that: You guys need to relax. You're looking at those mounts with envy and you ruin a game for yourself by thinking "Person A has something I cant have, thats sooo unfair!" There are things in life you cant achieve because they are not meant for you. Those mounts are even having "legacy" in their name, right? They are not meant for you. You have plenty to choose from and plenty to obtain. There are achievments and titles from 1.0 we cant achieve anymore - because 1.0 was different from ARR/HW. Why is it so hard to let those loyal people keep their special stuff to remember 1.0? And not take away the value that it also gets from being something from a different era?