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    Velhart's Avatar
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    Mar 2011
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    Ul'Dah
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
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    You and I played a different 2.0 then. Tons of people had a major roadblock with these three primals, especially Titan. The game just got released, most players were still adjusting to the game. Not much was expected from you until Praetorium. Even then, Ifrit hard was definitely a fight where you had to start taking things seriously. Sure with our experience today their mechanics are a walk in the park, but when people were just starting, it was quite an ordeal. It did feel very rewarding downing Titan and finally getting to see Coils for the first time. Experiences feel better when they were earned, not simply just handed to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantrus View Post
    Then play your classes in the way you deem simple. But don't force everyone else to play simply too.
    There is a difference between simplifying and dumbing down. Increasing timers and such to not feel like you are micro managing so much especially in a raid fight can help not cause so much frustration. Them making abilities more convenient to use isn't dumbing anything down. Doing things like increasing buff timers, changing how some abilities work does not dumb down the combat. It also allows developers to make harder content. Again, they are not dumbing down things. You are not going to see Enochian on BLM go away. They may make methods to manage it easier, but it isn't going away. BRD's and MCH's casting stances won't go away, they may make more abilities that proc to make the stance feel more natural. Well, it does feel natural on MCH, I am pointing more towards BRD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiyoko View Post
    I agree with Mantrus, you're not forced to play w/ the update abilities. The level 50 rotations still exist and you can use them if you so please. That was the point of the 1st quote I linked from YoshiP. Players can play the game as they please, so if the level 50 rotation suit you better then use them, but you shouldn't expect to preform at the same level as someone fully utilizing the new abilities. This shouldn't be forced on everyone.
    Sure, your 12.99 a month, you play how you want. Just don't expect others to put up with it. Not learning your new abilities is only a detriment to yourself and the people you play with.
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    Last edited by Velhart; 08-26-2016 at 08:09 AM.