Unofficial Census 2016 for FFXIV

[Vantol]

but we are already above that

We are not. There are ~507'772 players who logged in at least once (or more) in past 7 months, and ~225'457 players who completed 3.3 main quest (which takes maximum a few hours).

[Musashidon]

no one is staying subbed for long periods of time.

yet your *unofficial census* says there are, but hey only use the info when you want right?

pull my head out of my tuckus? it is.

you are the one says *this is why it's dead this is why it's a dead game*

yet it's not dead yet it's just over exaggeration to try to make some fake fearmongering the game has lasted 3 years in 4 days, and yet it's still got a large game population (yes large)
if you wanna compare it to wow sure but then this game is only in second place to wow itself.

[zosia]

yet your *unofficial census* says there are, but hey only use the info when you want right?

pull my head out of my tuckus? it is.

you are the one says *this is why it's dead this is why it's a dead game*

yet it's not dead yet it's just over exaggeration to try to make some fake fearmongering the game has lasted 3 years in 4 days, and yet it's still got a large game population (yes large)
if you wanna compare it to wow sure but then this game is only in second place to wow itself.

Yoshi P. said this game needs about 500k subs to stay healthy. We are already sitting at that lower limit just based on the number of characters that logged in the last few months. You are fine sitting at the lowest number of subs needed to support this game midway through the second expansion? LOL do you even see what you are defending? Those stats were taken from lodestone data, there is not a bunch of unaccounted for active players for you to cushion your argument with.

Go on, defend a game being at it's lowest carrying capacity during it's first real expansion. It delights me to see you try and even defend these terrible active sub numbers.

FYI, these were the types of numbers a lot of MMO's showed before going F2P, just take a gander at the star wars MMO. hehehehehe, everything is fine though, don't you worry, as long as the last five of you use the cash shop enough, this game can stay around for ever

[Musashidon]

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i will leave this here just quoting the title of the thread,
Unofficial Census 2016 for FFXIV

your whole arguement is based on a unofficial census made by a random person.

[loreleidiangelo]

yet your *unofficial census* says there are, but hey only use the info when you want right?

pull my head out of my tuckus? it is.

you are the one says *this is why it's dead this is why it's a dead game*

yet it's not dead yet it's just over exaggeration to try to make some fake fearmongering the game has lasted 3 years in 4 days, and yet it's still got a large game population (yes large)
if you wanna compare it to wow sure but then this game is only in second place to wow itself.

I don't really have a dog in this race, but you can't blast that person for using figures from this unofficial census to support how "dead" the game is then turn around and boast that the playerbase is healthy without any of your own data to back it up.

[Musashidon]

I don't really have a dog in this race, but you can't blast that person for using figures from this unofficial census to support how "dead" the game is then turn around and boast that the playerbase is healthy without any of your own data to back it up.

actually i was making a point, they use the info only when they want to, they say the gaming is dead but the own census says other wise.

then they say well it's going down hill look at the census, see what i am saying?

me the matter of the census is *it's on the internet so it has to be true right?!*

now if you are saying i can't argue their point because they have a made up census sure i can make a fake graph in photoshop if you like and use that.

[zosia]

actually i was making a point, they use the info only when they want to, they say the gaming is dead but the own census says other wise.

then they say well it's going down hill look at the census, see what i am saying?

me the matter of the census is *it's on the internet so it has to be true right?!*

now if you are saying i can't argue their point because they have a made up census sure i can make a fake graph in photoshop if you like and use that.

The census data was taken right off of lodestone. It was a simple set of scripts that tracked active players. I guess the lodestone is an unofficial source now ;p

Do you really think these stats could be off by a significant amount? Yoshi P. said this game need 500k subs to survive, not thrive, not fluorish, survive. This game is sitting at that lower limit. At least I have a statement from the game producer and lodestone data backing my argument. You just have 'opinions' and 'feelings', lawl.

[Brian_]

actually i was making a point, they use the info only when they want to, they say the gaming is dead but the own census says other wise.

then they say well it's going down hill look at the census, see what i am saying?

me the matter of the census is *it's on the internet so it has to be true right?!*

now if you are saying i can't argue their point because they have a made up census sure i can make a fake graph in photoshop if you like and use that.

Except this census is not made up. They've specifically stated how the data is accumulated. For you to compare it to a fake graph is asinine.

[Musashidon]

Except this census is not made up. They've specifically stated how the data is accumulated. For you to compare it to a fake graph is asinine.

yes and i read it but i didn't see it saying anything about reading the total number of players subbed each month for the last 7 months just some random numbers generated by using a few filters.

[Enkidoh]

The census data was taken right off of lodestone. It was a simple set of scripts that tracked active players. I guess the lodestone is an unofficial source now ;p

Do you really think these stats could be off by a significant amount? Yoshi P. said this game need 500k subs to survive, not thrive, not fluorish, survive. This game is sitting at that lower limit. At least I have a statement from the game producer and lodestone data backing my argument. You just have 'opinions' and 'feelings', lawl.

Yet somehow this game is still going strong despite it, with SE clearly making enough money from the game to run a FFXIV themed cafe in Tokyo to boot! /sarcasm

I think it's pretty telling that this so-called 'census' is nothing but chocobo dung not to be taken seriously, just like this same tired Chicken-Little mentality about the game 'dying' that keeps being spouted over and over again (since long before launch actually - really this game should have died half a dozen times by now if the doomsayers are to be believed).

The game is not failing, sure it can be improved, but articulating 'room for improvement' as 'the game is dying because not everyone is logging in 24/7/doing endgame stuff!' only invalidates the whole arguement.

But I've said enough on this subject already so I'm tired of repeating myself.