Black Mage Sanctuary - A Guide to DPS

[Maero]

You can always sharpcast> F1>F3 and begin that way

[FunkyBunch]

The 2nd tick would give extra MP from being in UI-2, which is an extra 10% or 15% of your max MP.

Understood, except that 10% isn't enough. It's barely enough at 15% WITH PIE buff. Without it the PIE buff it's still not enough.
So even if it is a slight Potency upgrade (which since it delays your rotation by a minimum of 1.7 seconds per Freeze even with Ley Lines and 2.22 GCD I'm not entirely sure it is) it is situational at best.

[FunkyBunch]

How do you guys get back into your rotation with only sharpcast and enochian available?

I have always done F3 > SC > F1 > eno > F4 > F4 > F3(procced) > F4 > F4 etc.

Is there a way to roll into this with slightly higher potency?

I go F3-Eno-F4-SC-F4-F1-F4-F4-F3, that puts both F1 and the free F3 under Enochian.

[StouterTaru]

Understood, except that 10% isn't enough. It's barely enough at 15% WITH PIE buff. Without it the PIE buff it's still not enough.

Just ran it in game, and it's plenty without Piety buff. You get 32% for UI1, 47% for UI2 in battle (35%/50% outside battle). UI1 reduces fire spell cost to half of base MP cost, UI2 reduces them to a quarter of base MP cost.

I used the following with a 2.19 sec GCD:
Eno > LL > RS > Fire 3 > Fire II x3 > Swift > Flare > Convert > Flare > Transpose > Freeze > Fire 3 > Fire II x2 > Flare > Transpose

That took roughly 33 seconds with a fast MP first tick after the first transpose. The first MP tick after the 2nd transpose was less than a second.

Then the same rotation minus LL and Freeze, took roughly 34 seconds with a medium wait on first MP first tick after the first transpose. The first MP tick after the 2nd transpose was less than a second.

Rotation time is almost exactly the same, total potency is about 5% higher with LL + Freeze. That's pretty unspectacular for 15% off your cast time. I'll have to try it out next time I get arrow for an AoE rotation, but I'm not gonna make a habit of using LL for AoE.

[Lilyth]

Just ran it in game, and it's plenty without Piety buff. You get 32% for UI1, 47% for UI2 in battle (35%/50% outside battle). UI1 reduces fire spell cost to half of base MP cost, UI2 reduces them to a quarter of base MP cost.

I used the following with a 2.19 sec GCD:
Eno > LL > RS > Fire 3 > Fire II x3 > Swift > Flare > Convert > Flare > Transpose > Freeze > Fire 3 > Fire II x2 > Flare > Transpose

Interesting. If you are trying this rotation out with LL and freeze, might as well add a second Freeze after the first one. You'll get UI3, a faster F3 and full mana on top. See how it goes.

[StouterTaru]

Interesting. If you are trying this rotation out with LL and freeze, might as well add a second Freeze after the first one. You'll get UI3, a faster F3 and full mana on top. See how it goes.

I don't see it working, since adding one Freeze barely held the time between the two transpose > MP tick at 15 seconds. A 2nd Freeze and an extra Fire II added in would likely add 6 seconds. Past the initial burst that's a slight dps loss in an infinite time fight, but could be a tiny dps boost if everything died at a specific point.

If you've unloaded 5x Fire II and 3x Flare and that's not enough to destroy the pack, just flip the table and start name calling.

[FunkyBunch]

Rotation time is almost exactly the same, total potency is about 5% higher with LL + Freeze. That's pretty unspectacular for 15% off your cast time. I'll have to try it out next time I get arrow for an AoE rotation, but I'm not gonna make a habit of using LL for AoE.

How much MP do you have?
I'll have to try it out again. I just mathed I couldn't do the rotation, but maybe that was because of the 1/4 F3 cost I missed.
I have 11400 with PIE buff and that gives me 65 MP to spare.

But it seems like an awful lot of effort for not much gain trying to find a use for a useless spell. Aiming it on PS4 is a PITA because it stupidly is initially aimed by your camera angle so I'd have to macro it which would slow down my rotation even more.

[FunkyBunch]

I don't see it working, since adding one Freeze barely held the time between the two transpose > MP tick at 15 seconds. A 2nd Freeze and an extra Fire II added in would likely add 6 seconds. Past the initial burst that's a slight dps loss in an infinite time fight, but could be a tiny dps boost if everything died at a specific point.

If you've unloaded 5x Fire II and 3x Flare and that's not enough to destroy the pack, just flip the table and start name calling.

If the pack still isn't dead, it is not the fault of the BLM lol. That means someone else was being bad.

[StouterTaru]

How much MP do you have?
I'll have to try it out again. I just mathed I couldn't do the rotation, but maybe that was because of the 1/4 F3 cost I missed.
I have 11400 with PIE buff and that gives me 65 MP to spare.

But it seems like an awful lot of effort for not much gain trying to find a use for a useless spell. Aiming it on PS4 is a PITA because it stupidly is initially aimed by your camera angle so I'd have to macro it which would slow down my rotation even more.

11400 MP should give you 3648+5358 for 9006 MP

Freeze - 1768
Fire 3 - 442
Fire 2 - 2652
Fire 2 - 2652
Flare - 884
Total - 8398

As for casting Freeze, use a macro for it, no ground targeting required:

/micon Freeze
/ac Freeze <t>

[FunkyBunch]

11400 MP should give you 3648+5358 for 9006 MP

Freeze - 1768
Fire 3 - 442
Fire 2 - 2652
Fire 2 - 2652
Flare - 884
Total - 8398

As for casting Freeze, use a macro for it, no ground targeting required:

/micon Freeze
/ac Freeze <t>

Correct, I must have had fat fingers on my calculator that day.
I guess if it's a DPS increase and the fight will take ~90 seconds I "should" try using Ley Lines, but your SS is higher than mine it seems. My GCD is 2.22 and it seems like 0.03 too high to benefit.