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  1. #1791
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    You get Blizzard II at level 12 if I recall. It's 50 potency per target. On AF1 at the same level, Fire 1 is 252 Potency meaning it is better than Blizzard on less than 5 targets.

    On a same note, F4 is 491,4 potency so you need 10 targets for B2 to worth. Then again, you'll be doing F2 + Flare because F4 or B2 on a pull with 10 targets or more.

    Even if you were to wait MP while you don't have flare, it would probably worth more to cast Freeze once then go back to your astral fire and spam fire 2.

    To answer you, Blizzard II is completely useless. This is a Summoner AoE filler spell, not a Black Mage spell. It might have uses in PvP to bind but that's about it. It might be useless to spam B2 for easy gold on Yo-Kais fate. If you like to work on events and not enjoy them lol.

    In raid content, it is completely useless. I don't even have it on my bars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post

    Even if you were to wait MP while you don't have flare, it would probably worth more to cast Freeze once then go back to your astral fire and spam fire 2.

    To answer you, Blizzard II is completely useless. This is a Summoner AoE filler spell, not a Black Mage spell. It might have uses in PvP to bind but that's about it. It might be useless to spam B2 for easy gold on Yo-Kais fate. If you like to work on events and not enjoy them lol.

    In raid content, it is completely useless. I don't even have it on my bars.
    The correct BLM AoE rotation does not use Freeze or cast a single Ice spell. Freeze is mildly useful sometimes in PvP. Outside of that, it doesn't need to be on your hotbar either.
    It goes
    F3-F2-F2-F2-Flare
    Transpose F3-F2-F2-Flare <-repeat forever/until dead
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    At 9 mobs, a Freeze and an extra Fire II evens out in the dps category, or at 6 mobs if you have enough Piety to get two extra Fire II's in (which is around 350 Piety). Of course, both scenarios are impractical for several reasons.
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    when you have leylines and do transpose, its better to cast freeze rather than just waiting 2sec to get enough mana before using F3
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    Another thing to note about Blizzard II is, it's great for knock back mechanics. Think cerulean tanks in Keeper of the Lake on the first boss, or the bombs on the final boss in Brayflox HM. But other than that and PvP, it's worthless.
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  6. #1796
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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyBunch View Post
    The correct BLM AoE rotation does not use Freeze or cast a single Ice spell. Freeze is mildly useful sometimes in PvP. Outside of that, it doesn't need to be on your hotbar either.
    It goes
    F3-F2-F2-F2-Flare
    Transpose F3-F2-F2-Flare <-repeat forever/until dead
    I mean, between level 35 and 49, you don't have Flare. I'd never use Freeze outside of that lol. I guess I didn't express correctly. I wouldn't even AoE in raid. In A2S I helped a group that I wasn't even using AoE and it was easier to clear lol

    Also, Freeze had a use in Coil T7 Savage compared to Blizzard II in PvE content.

    Freeze is also smarter to use when your pack of mob has about 10% health left because this one Dragoon will kill your target and you'll have waste your time.

    Quote Originally Posted by smallbeach View Post
    when you have leylines and do transpose, its better to cast freeze rather than just waiting 2sec to get enough mana before using F3
    That's a pretty good question. Again... if you're in a fight where you always AoE, I'd play Summoner lol.

    I would say if you had to wait 2 seconds for a second tick considering with Leylines, I'm at roughly 2.23 cast, that would probably be smart but you might get more mana.
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  7. #1797
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    Quote Originally Posted by smallbeach View Post
    when you have leylines and do transpose, its better to cast freeze rather than just waiting 2sec to get enough mana before using F3
    How exactly do you propose casting Freeze after Transpose after Flare? 0 MP is 0MP
    Or do you mean going wait for MP tick, Freeze, F3?
    That also robs you of the necessary MP to cast Flare unless you get a THIRD MP tick during your F3 which means you delayed your rotation by more than a full 3 seconds (in effect 6 seconds).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garotte14 View Post
    Another thing to note about Blizzard II is, it's great for knock back mechanics. Think cerulean tanks in Keeper of the Lake on the first boss, or the bombs on the final boss in Brayflox HM. But other than that and PvP, it's worthless.
    I just use F2...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyBunch View Post
    How exactly do you propose casting Freeze after Transpose after Flare? 0 MP is 0MP
    Or do you mean going wait for MP tick, Freeze, F3?
    That also robs you of the necessary MP to cast Flare unless you get a THIRD MP tick during your F3 which means you delayed your rotation by more than a full 3 seconds (in effect 6 seconds).
    The 2nd tick would give extra MP from being in UI-2, which is an extra 10% or 15% of your max MP.
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    How do you guys get back into your rotation with only sharpcast and enochian available?

    I have always done F3 > SC > F1 > eno > F4 > F4 > F3(procced) > F4 > F4 etc.

    Is there a way to roll into this with slightly higher potency?
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