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  1. #61
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    Moomba33's Avatar
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    I pay month by month myself and am just getting up to the Tantalus reward.
    Looking forward to seeing what's next.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by JumperX View Post
    I would suggest you to contact SE personally and try to see if they can do some type of exception.
    Why would and should they? Because someone cant wait to be rewarded for loyalty and want their shinies NOW?
    Really? In this case, I better call my parents and ask them to send my christmas presents over...
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Except that is an entirely different game. The equivalent there would be wanting perks in FFX-2 without having played FFX. Them taking place in the same universe doesn't make them the same game.
    Have you never played a sequel that gives you exclusive items for having certain saves on your memory card? There were a tonne on the PS2 (Ratchet and Clank and Jak and Daxter did it if I remember correctly). Also just because 1.0 got rebuilt, doesn't make 2.0 a completely different game, you don't have to get a new subscription between versions.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 08-17-2016 at 11:03 PM.

  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Veteran rewards dont change (since Op said "assuming it will be this again") - so there you go... your hope is to play this game for three years just as some of us did and you'll get the outfit. Until then: If you wanna look like Zidane (for whatever reason...) you can be creative and use pieces we already have ingame to achieve that - my friend made his retainer look like him without the outfit and now we have a cute little lala-Zidane in our garden.

    Veterans who are loyal to this game and supporting it for quite a while arent "asking" for much if they're telling you that those items are their reward for playing this game for so long and want to keep this. You get tones of items in game... when I started this game those items didnt even existed and I somehow made it... People have to stop asking for everything to be handed to them NOW...
    Sigh. I didn't. I've repeated mentioned either grinding or beating Savage x amount of times; neither being a swift means of obtaining anything. But fair enough, you can play around with outfits. I wouldn't want to cosplay a character anyway, I just like bits and pieces of different outfits to blend.

    Anywho, I don't think it's unfair, just to be clear nor have I expressed that. Just not a fan of content limited by time because I like earning them through the game itself, not just logging in. But at the same time, I do appreciate veteran perspective. That is why I suggested something like a free months sub earlier? This was never a "I want this all now with no effort provided!" So the entitled claims baffle me. But I'll concede the point nonetheless because I don't disagree with the overall intent.

    Might bug a wee bit more if it were mounts or minions though. I like collecting those. :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Maybe this is just me but I kinda "like" that - if I see someone with those items glamoured etc. I'll know they're playing this game for a while and therefor should have a certain knowledge about it. So its not only a reward but also showing everyone that you've been supporting this game for a while already...
    Fair way to look at it.

    Quote Originally Posted by JumperX View Post
    It is done to. prevent fraudulent transactions. This game is still created by a company, which is looking for monetary profit. I have seen other MMOs having that same or similar payment method. They wont go over certain amount of $$. At least you can do some type of special purchase (subscription) or wholesale lol.

    I would suggest you to contact SE personally and try to see if they can do some type of exception.
    Oh, I wouldn't go to those extremes. It's more the idea I have my misgivings with, but in thinking on it, this argument probably better applies to other exclusives (which has been mentioned.)
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Have you never played a sequel that gives you exclusive items for having certain saves on your memory card? There were a tonne on the PS2 (Ratchet and Clank and Jak and Daxter did it if I remember correctly)
    I did say without. I didn't play 1.0, so I wouldn't ask for content that required I have bought it. So I don't think the comparison fits. This was more arguing over exclusives being time based over in-game effort. But I've said my bit on that above; and that it applying here may not have been the best means to go about that.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Sigh. I didn't. I've repeated mentioned either grinding or beating Savage x amount of times
    Heres the thing... the rewards aren't designed for that. Do you know what is? savage gear. These are VETERAN rewards, designed to be a reward for long time subscription, and putting them elsewhere undermines their entire purpose in the first place, no matter how much work the alternative would be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    This was more arguing over exclusives being time based over in-game effort.
    As I said, the in-game effort already has rewards, and the time exclusives are for veteran players as a thank you for being loyal to the game for so long. You will get them eventually, we all wait and pay our sub, I have had to, and everyone has had to.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 08-17-2016 at 11:09 PM.

  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Sigh. I didn't. I've repeated mentioned either grinding or beating Savage x amount of times; neither being a swift means of obtaining anything.
    The point of those items isnt that they take long to get... its the dev's way of saying "Hey, thanks that you're enjoying and supporting this game for so long already, here, have a present!" - it feels as if you're looking at this as something you can achieve, while thats not really the case - its a present, a reward, for supporting the game a certain amount of time.

    Makes me kinda think of Momo by Michael Ende and the old sweeper Beppo: "If you look at the whole street you'll think 'I can never do that!' and then you start to hurry and get stressed. Thats not how you do it. Dont think of the whole street, just think of the next sweep, the next step, the next breath and before you know you'll have cleaned the whole street."
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    The point of those items isnt that they take long to get... its the dev's way of saying "Hey, thanks that you're enjoying and supporting this game for so long already, here, have a present!" - it feels as if you're looking at this as something you can achieve, while thats not really the case - its a present, a reward, for supporting the game a certain amount of time.

    Makes me kinda think of Momo by Michael Ende and the old sweeper Beppo: "If you look at the whole street you'll think 'I can never do that!' and then you start to hurry and get stressed. Thats not how you do it. Dont think of the whole street, just think of the next sweep, the next step, the next breath and before you know you'll have cleaned the whole street."
    Aye. In retrospect, you're probably right because I know I wouldn't use most of those pieces. I was conflating the two, which wouldn't apply here. Maybe I am getting too caught up on achievement hunting lately lol.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 08-17-2016 at 11:26 PM.

  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Because I express a small bit of disappointment I likely won't ever have these items because of the vast amount of time needed to stay subbed, we can't have nice things? Alright.



    The "problem" is staying subbed that length of time amounts to over three years. They aren't easily obtainable. And I'm not saying they should be. Just expressing I don't necessarily like more content added behind that massive a wall with no alternative means. But then again, I'm not a fan of exclusive content. Certainly won't lose sleep over it though.
    Isn't that the whole point though? It is a reward for being subscriber for a certain amount of time. Making it attainable any other way, defeats the entire purpose of 'Veteran Rewards'.
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    If you deem this special snowflake worthy. I... don't even have words.
    ..and yet you started this topic which suggests you do deem it worthy, otherwise, why is this even an issue to be raised?
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