Veteran Rewards going to 1200 and 1320 days

[MikeWW]

1,320 days is a lot. If someone wants an item you get after 1000 days, but doesn't care about the other items you get along the way, it would feel like you are being asked to subscribe for over 30 months or about $350-$400 usd just to get an item you want. It would require a huge time and financial investment.

I think a fairer way to do things is to give out tokens each month you are subscribed, letting you pick what you want and skip things you don't want.

[ADVSS]

Guess WHAT? there are people, like myself who have reached that many years of subscription. It isnt even hard to do theres a monthly reup or resub instant transaction option. Yeah some of us, and even 1.0 players payed THAT much into this game. Its only fair that others should have to as well, the rewards arent even that great. some mounts, some minions and some glamours. This isnt even an issue at all, this is, keep supporting the game thanks for your support. This is even a complaint? come on! This isnt something impossible. Wait untill they claim the game is ending officially, then itd be an issue. As far as the complaint about the level jump potion, it applies to the same thing. Someone walks in and wants to be handed all the rewards as if theyve supported this game for years, its bad enough that past holiday events are buyable, now you think people should pay for having not had to be a subscriberfor years cause its not fair for people who didnt support the game when it was new and needed the help. really?

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Guess WHAT? there are people, like myself who have reached that many years of subscription. It isnt even hard to do theres a monthly reup or resub instant transaction option. Yeah some of us, and even 1.0 players payed THAT much into this game. Its only fair that others should have to as well, the rewards arent even that great. some mounts, some minions and some glamours. This isnt even an issue at all, this is, keep supporting the game thanks for your support. This is even a complaint? come on! This isnt something impossible. Wait untill they claim the game is ending officially, then itd be an issue. As far as the complaint about the level jump potion, it applies to the same thing. Someone walks in and wants to be handed all the rewards as if theyve supported this game for years, its bad enough that past holiday events are buyable, now you think people should pay for having not had to be a subscriberfor years cause its not fair for people who didnt support the game when it was new and needed the help. really?

Where did I ever suggest it being a Cash Shop item? Please find that direct quote, I'll wait. What I don't like about content like this is no amount of effort on my part always me to get it if I so chose. If I like or want something enough, I will (and have) worked for it. This, isn't that though. It's simply waiting years with no means of influencing the time or even choosing the reward you prefer ala what MikeWW mentioned. And this isn't even a complaint, just someone voicing a little (emphasis on little) disappointment that I might not be able to get something even if I were willing to work for it, because no, I don't plan my life three years in advance.

Well a good majority of people enjoy exclusive content and rewards because it shows how long we have been around and sometimes is a good conversation piece with newer players. But sadly days of exclusive goodies are over for the most party because people think they are entitled to every little thing ever created.

Uh, no. Not in NA they don't. There is a reason pre-orders are despised. And what conversation? You have a glamour piece I don't. There isn't a conversation there outside of my asking how I can possibly get it, finding out and not caring anymore. This isn't like say, achievements, where I can literally go and do them even if it entails a long grind or beating a super boss. Entitlement would imply I just wanted something handed to me for free. I don't. Ironically, you wanting exclusivity can be argued as entitlement, if we're going down that slope. No offense, but you didn't work for this. You paid more money for a longer period of time than I have. If you want to spin the whole "supporting the game" argument. The Cash Shop technically supports the game too. But again I'm not saying any of these items should be on it. Just so we're clear.

[bass9020]

Uh, no. Not in NA they don't. There is a reason pre-orders are despised. And what conversation? You have a glamour piece I don't. There isn't a conversation there outside of my asking how I can possibly get it, finding out and not caring anymore. This isn't like say, achievements, where I can literally go and do them even if it entails a long grind or beating a super boss. Entitlement would imply I just wanted something handed to me for free. I don't. Ironically, you wanting exclusivity can be argued as entitlement, if we're going down that slope. No offense, but you didn't work for this. You paid more money for a longer period of time than I have. If you want to spin the whole "supporting the game" argument. The Cash Shop technically supports the game too. But again I'm not saying any of these items should be on it. Just so we're clear.

And there lies the problem we as americans think we are entitled to everything regardless of whats inplace for things we just WANT WANT WANT. Its a sad truth.

[Kosmos992k]

And there lies the problem we as americans think we are entitled to everything regardless of whats inplace for things we just WANT WANT WANT. Its a sad truth.

Americans also always want to one up each other and be a special snowflake which is mutually exclusive with everybody gets everything.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

What you are saying amounts to "I want what you have but I'm not prepared to fulfil the requirements you did to get it, so give it to me anyway."

The answer is very simple. No. If you want it, sub for 3 years and get it. Any alternative means is simply a way for people to circumvent the requirements. Sound like a very entitled point of view to me. Also, the idea that Americans don't want or like exclusive items is truly laughable. The USA is individualistic to a fault, exclusivity is their bread and butter.

That isn't what I've said at all, but I'm glad you have been reading.

By that token, I suppose we should eliminate every way of getting ilvl 235 weapons save one. After all, it's "circumvent the requirements." Laughably, and yet how many "put Lightning's hair on the Cash Shop" threads did we see? Preorders are, again, despised because NA tends to prefer being able to get items through grinds or beating challenges, not being told "buy from this specific store, at this specific time or you'll never get it again." Another example? Console exclusives. The instant they get announced for popular games, people rage. So much so, you hardly ever see them nowadays.

Americans also always want to one up each other and be a special snowflake which is mutually exclusive with everybody gets everything.

If you deem this special snowflake worthy. I... don't even have words.

[Kosmos992k]

If you deem this special snowflake worthy. I... don't even have words.

..and yet you started this topic which suggests you do deem it worthy, otherwise, why is this even an issue to be raised?

[Teryaani]

Americans also always want to one up each other and be a special snowflake which is mutually exclusive with everybody gets everything.

We're complicated people.

[Lan_Mantear]

We're complicated people.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

And there lies the problem we as americans think we are entitled to everything regardless of whats inplace for things we just WANT WANT WANT. Its a sad truth.

That isn't entitlement. Saying you will work for something is the precise opposite. This is only a timed exclusive. The sentiment is certainly better than say, Best Buy having one preorder item and Gamestop another, but the core idea remains. Entitlement would be my asking for these without any effort put forth. If the devs came out tomorrow and announced you can get say, Cloud's outfit from beating Savage x amount of times. It certainly wouldn't be easy nor entitled. Unless you think beating the hardest content in the game is entitlement. That's just an example mind you. But I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree. For whatever it's worth, I do appreciate the sentiment of veteran rewards. I just do not like timed exclusives like that. The same would apply to the Fanfest minions being region bound unless you pay three times to watch it on Twitch.