Patch 3.38, 8/23

[LaylaTsarra]

I guess they'll decrease the 680 poetics/esos per item.

I suppose that is an option as opposed to reducing the number of unidentified items. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

[Eul]

Running M4 takes 10 minutes at most. You can have the weapon in about an hour. And again, it's no longer a 230 weapon, it's a 240 with upgrade. Sorry but I don't subscribe to the make everything easier crowd. A 240 weapon comparable to relic shouldn't be given away cause people want it with little effort.

Isn't the item weekly lockout? How did you get it in hour if it's weekly lockout?

[LaylaTsarra]

Isn't the item weekly lockout? How did you get it in hour is it's weekly lockout?

I'm talking about the time put in to earn it - the effort, not the fact that you have to wait a number of weeks. What are you proposing then run M4 once and get your weapon? Is that what you want? Then upgrade it to 240 with upgrade items probably already sitting on your retainer?

[Morningstar1337]

Probably, instead of needing 20 of each item, the number needed will be reduced.
It just "made easier to get".

It seems unlikely, as that might vindicate hoarders of the unidentified items and especially the crafting tokens making it easy toget say 2-4 weapons for the price of one.

Its more likely thatthe tome cost will be reduced, the Beastmen coin yield per quest might increase and maybe the Diadem mats will be obtained elsewhere, but they would not do anything beyond that

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Running M4 takes 10 minutes at most. You can have the weapon in about an hour. And again, it's no longer a 230 weapon, it's a 240 with upgrade. Sorry but I don't subscribe to the make everything easier crowd. A 240 weapon comparable to relic shouldn't be given away cause people want it with little effort.

I do tend to feel they are getting too carried away with making everyone match. Savage gear should be the clear BiS without dispute because of the sheer difficulty. If they changed the drop restrictions to making it so players who have cleared Savage that week can't obtain another item but it won't effect anyone else and made said gear BiS, those raiders could help others get clears. At least in theory. Right now, there is no incentive to help the community because you negative influence their drop rates if you did.

[Daemius]

Running M4 takes 10 minutes at most. You can have the weapon in about an hour. And again, it's no longer a 230 weapon, it's a 240 with upgrade. Sorry but I don't subscribe to the make everything easier crowd. A 240 weapon comparable to relic shouldn't be given away cause people want it with little effort.

You need to beat m4s to make it 240? So realistically it's a 230 weapon that takes 7 weeks to unlock. I didn't say anything about making the game easier. Im just trying to point out how ridiculous it is it takes this long to get this item when there exists numerous easier options now. But anyways, I never had a horse in this race to begin with since Im current on my relic. Byeeeee.

[Eul]

I'm talking about the time put in to earn it - the effort, not the fact that you have to wait a number of weeks. What are you proposing then run M4 once and get your weapon? Is that what you want? Then upgrade it to 240 with upgrade items probably already sitting on your retainer?

Sooner or later it will goes to retainer tho (Except my alt job), but what I feel with this patch is, it might removes the weekly lockout for all midan turn like what happen with gordian now.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

It seems unlikely, as that might vindicate hoarders of the unidentified items and especially the crafting tokens making it easy toget say 2-4 weapons for the price of one.

Its more likely thatthe tome cost will be reduced, the Beastmen coin yield per quest might increase and maybe the Diadem mats will be obtained elsewhere, but they would not do anything beyond that

Does it honestly matter though? You can ever only gear three jobs fully at the amount most per even number patch cycle. Sure, I could go and unlock every weapon, but I'll never be able to play all those jobs in raid. Considering how many ways we can get a ilvl 235 weapon now. I doubt they care about the few players who hoarded.

[KarstenS]

This is a 230 weapon and requires 7 weeks.

And now? The onliest content where you need weapons like this is savage. And when you do Savage, you find a weapon token (the finished one) once a week in the chest.

[Eul]

And now? The onliest content where you need weapons like this is savage. And when you do Savage, you find a weapon token (the finished one) once a week in the chest.

At this time? Most people already got their 240 anima weapon so I bet they don't care with 240 midan weapon.