Patch 3.38, 8/23

[LaylaTsarra]

http://xivdb.com/item/14321/Hailstorm+Rod

This is a 230 weapon and requires 7 weeks. Conversely you can spend a day grinding potd and you have a 235.

Running M4 takes 10 minutes at most. You can have the weapon in about an hour. And again, it's no longer a 230 weapon, it's a 240 with upgrade. Sorry but I don't subscribe to the make everything easier crowd. A 240 weapon comparable to relic shouldn't be given away cause people want it with little effort.

[Eul]

Running M4 takes 10 minutes at most. You can have the weapon in about an hour. And again, it's no longer a 230 weapon, it's a 240 with upgrade. Sorry but I don't subscribe to the make everything easier crowd. A 240 weapon comparable to relic shouldn't be given away cause people want it with little effort.

Isn't the item weekly lockout? How did you get it in hour if it's weekly lockout?

[LaylaTsarra]

Isn't the item weekly lockout? How did you get it in hour is it's weekly lockout?

I'm talking about the time put in to earn it - the effort, not the fact that you have to wait a number of weeks. What are you proposing then run M4 once and get your weapon? Is that what you want? Then upgrade it to 240 with upgrade items probably already sitting on your retainer?

[Eul]

I'm talking about the time put in to earn it - the effort, not the fact that you have to wait a number of weeks. What are you proposing then run M4 once and get your weapon? Is that what you want? Then upgrade it to 240 with upgrade items probably already sitting on your retainer?

Sooner or later it will goes to retainer tho (Except my alt job), but what I feel with this patch is, it might removes the weekly lockout for all midan turn like what happen with gordian now.

[SendohJin]

What are you proposing then run M4 once and get your weapon? Is that what you want? Then upgrade it to 240 with upgrade items probably already sitting on your retainer?

take the Weekly lockout off of M4 (leave it at 7 items) and make the upgrade item cost 2 Pennies and 2 Farthings.

[LaylaTsarra]

take the Weekly lockout off of M4 (leave it at 7 items) and make the upgrade item cost 2 Pennies and 2 Farthings.

Not happening until relic is at the next level. I think those who propose this can dream but I'd be very surprised to see that happen now.

[SendohJin]

Not happening until relic is at the next level. I think those who propose this can dream but I'd be very surprised to see that happen now.

so what do you think the upgrade item will cost? we're going to get i250 weapons in like 6 weeks.

[LaylaTsarra]

so what do you think the upgrade item will cost? we're going to get i250 weapons in like 6 weeks.

No idea just hope it's not too painful. I have two 240 relics (black and white mage) and two 230's (bard and astro) so I definately have a lot of time and effort invested in them.

[Nezerius]

Not happening until relic is at the next level. I think those who propose this can dream but I'd be very surprised to see that happen now.

They're not gonna wait until 3.45 to remove the lockout from the M4 token, which is when the next relic step will be added.

If the lockout isn't removed in 3.38, then it'll definitely be removed in 3.4, so either in 1 week or about 5 weeks.

[Alistaire]

Isn't the item weekly lockout? How did you get it in hour if it's weekly lockout?

10 minutes x 7 = 1h10. So they're right, just that the time involved has to be spread out over 7 weeks. And relic is still better and this (hopefully) isn't the last relic step anyways.