Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
Thing is your runs aren't taking that long on average you're looking at 2-3 minutes longer maybe. Again nothing to complain about enough to suggest a new ranking system that will do more harm then good.
Again, it depends what you think is the appropriate time for the dungeon - not the average. The issue is that the average is longer than it should be. You cannot say "well most runs are fine because they are close to the average". That is completely obvious, that is sort of how statistics etc. work. The issue is that the average, and most players and runs, are quite slow due to people not performing adequately.

When you do a run that has a total group DPS of 3500, and you know that you should be able to get 5700 (DPS 1800 + 1800 + Tank 1100 + Heal 1000), you can feel the run being quite a bit slower. To make that more clear, if a mob has 1 million hp, it will take 285 (just under 5 minutse) seconds with the weaker group vs 175 (just under 3 minutes) seconds with the stronger group