Possible ban?

[Titor]

Are you all serious he used a small amount of fc points in a fc with a lot of credits where his fc rank granted him the use of fc points.

I run a fc and we have more credits than needed for. What did the fc need them for. Buffs? Airships? You can handle all this for a week on about 50k credits, during which time you usually generate that much if your fc is active anyway.

Sheesh people. Just really? I do not have my fc ask me if they want to buy something that takes a small fraction of our fc credits.

[AlphaFox]

Are you all serious he used a small amount of fc points in a fc with a lot of credits where his fc rank granted him the use of fc points.

I run a fc and we have more credits than needed for. What did the fc need them for. Buffs? Airships? You can handle all this for a week on about 50k credits, during which time you usually generate that much if your fc is active anyway.

Sheesh people. Just really? I do not have my fc ask me if they want to buy something that takes a small fraction of our fc credits.

By that logic I could be invited into a rich persons home and take some cash or stuff? I mean it's not like they need it, they have TONS. They can just replace it or may not even miss it at all. The main point is she never even asked. Even if the door is left open you don't just walk into someone's bedroom and start taking stuff.

[Yawnie]

Sorry, but why would you do something like that? Never mind that there's Google images for a reason but why would you basically want your reputation to plummet and be called a thief and be frowned upon by many in your server/forums? Its just morally wrong on many levels and I really hope you don't something like that to another FC that gives you a certain amount of trust.

[Titor]

If you had a sign outside that read "if you come into my house you have permission to take what you want." Then yes.

[Ilitsa]

Are you all serious he used a small amount of fc points in a fc with a lot of credits where his fc rank granted him the use of fc points.

I run a fc and we have more credits than needed for. What did the fc need them for. Buffs? Airships? You can handle all this for a week on about 50k credits, during which time you usually generate that much if your fc is active anyway.

Sheesh people. Just really? I do not have my fc ask me if they want to buy something that takes a small fraction of our fc credits.

It's the principle of the matter. Taking something and then bailing like that, regardless of what it is, is a shitty, scum thing to do. And the OP proved that's the kind of person they are. They won't be banned from the game for it, but I sincerely hope that the FC's on her server blacklist her and don't let her into any more FC's, cuz who knows what she'll take from them next time.

[CelestePinke]

Are you all serious he used a small amount of fc points in a fc with a lot of credits where his fc rank granted him the use of fc points.

I run a fc and we have more credits than needed for. What did the fc need them for. Buffs? Airships? You can handle all this for a week on about 50k credits, during which time you usually generate that much if your fc is active anyway.

Sheesh people. Just really? I do not have my fc ask me if they want to buy something that takes a small fraction of our fc credits.

Why does the amount of credits matter? Can I make a character on Balmung and join your FC go buy a bunch of say flowers or stable brooms and then leave?

[Solarra]

So OP, come back and correct me if I've got this wrong:
You joined a FC. In fact, reading through the thread it appears you might have joined several in quick succession while looking for one with permissions you could take advantage of (possible grounds for a ban there, if that is the case). Then, once you were a member of this company, you bought things with their seals and immediately left them.

This part of your post annoyed me:

My theory is that the FC leader is at fault for not regulating what certain ranks can do in the FC. I was the lowest rank and I could add/move furniture and all that good stuff. I have been in many other FC that would only let the low ranks just feed the chocobos or tend to the plants.

You did a scummy action but the Company Leader is really the one to blame? No, you need to take responsibility for what you did. They are not to blame at all, they probably had things set up that way because the rest of their membership behaved decently and were trustworthy.
The real shame is that companies often end up tightening their permissions, not because they don't trust the majority of their members (because most people wouldn't do something like this) but simply to protect them from people like you.

[Galactimus]

I only read the first page so my apologies if this information was already provided. There was a GM response to a similar situation in the past (17 pages long) debating whether or not it would be considered stealing from an FC even though you were granted permissions to access the chest etc.

Topic: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...can-do-nothing.


GM responded on Page 15:

Greetings, DarkDedede!

This thread was brought to my attention, and I am currently looking into the situation. There may have been a miscommunication on the part of the GMs about our ability to investigate, and I am making sure that this was looked into. Sufficient evidence to treat this type of behaviour as fraud can certainly be difficult to obtain; however, these types of situations are ones that GMs can look into to try to find such evidence and rectify the damage that was done.

Thank you for your patience while we look into this.

LGM Enkrateia

Thus, GM's will look into these situations. Getting banned for spending company credits would probably be a bit extreme but might be possible if they found malicious chat logs etc. IE. Admitting you sabotaged the FC on purpose.

[Krazymagic]

I am curious if this is this person's MO. Does this type of behavior carry over to people in the Marriage hookup mega thread you have posted in continuiously? Would you take from someone in that situation as well or do you see that differently? .

A person's character dictates every action they take. A person who is morally bankrupt, will show symptons of that in every single area of their life- In the smallest actions they take, to the biggest. People leave evidence to their future with every step in their past. This is why its so stupid to get into relationships with people who have exhibited a clear lack of character in their past. Its why cheaters always cheat, and abusers always abuse. Their character dictates the code to which they live their lives. It infects their very perspective on life. They do not live their life by the same high moral code that many others do. Selfish actions are justified by blaming the victim for allowing it to happen (as in this case) I say all that to say yes, someone who has shown you their ability to be self absorbed and lacking of a high moral code, will likely exhibit that same behavior in every area of their life. If they will steal a 5 cent piece of bubble gum from a dollar star, you should assume they are also capable of stealing a new car. Someone who has a high moral code would steal neither, because they do not consider the value of the item being stolen, rather the act of theft itself. Individuals with a flawed character often focus on the value, rather than the act itself, as a way of justification. This is what defines personal integrity.

[Lexia]

People have done this many times before cleaning out FC chest/credits and running off and they never gotten in trouble cause simply the FC failed to set up their system correctly. Unless something has changed most likely only thing you have to worry about is a bad rep in the community.