Possible level/story jumps....really?

[JimmyDean]

If a game is designed with it in mind...

You don't need to have a leveling system at all to provide a good experience.

Not having to level a character and gain exp in a MMORPG is blasphemy.

[bass9020]

Not having to level a character and gain exp in a MMORPG is blasphemy.

Its ok though new players apparently hate leveling and doing MSQs so they deserve an INSTAIWINBUTTON! Otherwise they won't play and we can't have that......

[Naunet]

Its ok though new players apparently hate leveling and doing MSQs so they deserve an INSTAIWINBUTTON! Otherwise they won't play and we can't have that......

Way to misconstrue an argument.

I enjoy leveling (that's why I have a bazillion alts in every mmo I play). What I don't enjoy are things being arbitrarily locked behind hours and hours of mandatory story quest, especially when that story is boring as heck. >_<

[TaranTatsuuchi]

Not having to level a character and gain exp in a MMORPG is blasphemy.

It's just a different design direction.

More focused on a skill based game rather than a stats based one.

[Watachy]

It's just a different design direction.

More focused on a skill based game rather than a stats based one.

Skill based game ? Do you know the amount of people that don't even try to play decently ?

[TaranTatsuuchi]

Skill based game ? Do you know the amount of people that don't even try to play decently ?

I was speaking of a hypothetical game designed around not having a leveling system. ;P

[Cakekizyy]

Not having to level a character and gain exp in a MMORPG is blasphemy.

Are MUDs not considered MMOs?

[Velhart]

Not having to level a character and gain exp in a MMORPG is blasphemy.

I remember in 1.0, they said before the game was released that they were going to get rid of levels and progressed in a new manner. Then we get the game and turned out they gave us -two- bars to level up. Physical Level and Class Level, and the EXP was RNG. Good going, old FFXIV team!

[bass9020]

I remember in 1.0, they said before the game was released that they were going to get rid of levels and progressed in a new manner. Then we get the game and turned out they gave us -two- bars to level up. Physical Level and Class Level, and the EXP was RNG. Good going, old FFXIV team!

The system was pretty interesting since it was more of a rank up system rather then levels. I understood why they wanted to award rank points in the way they did but from what we saw it was pretty abused in the beginning and switching it to after a kill was a better option. I wish they still called them ranks since it was more about the weapons we used.