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  1. #561
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    bass9020's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDean View Post
    Not having to level a character and gain exp in a MMORPG is blasphemy.
    Its ok though new players apparently hate leveling and doing MSQs so they deserve an INSTAIWINBUTTON! Otherwise they won't play and we can't have that......
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  2. #562
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDean View Post
    Not having to level a character and gain exp in a MMORPG is blasphemy.
    It's just a different design direction.

    More focused on a skill based game rather than a stats based one.
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  3. #563
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    Koda Ko
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi View Post
    It's just a different design direction.

    More focused on a skill based game rather than a stats based one.
    Skill based game ? Do you know the amount of people that don't even try to play decently ?
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  4. #564
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    Cakekizyy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDean View Post
    Not having to level a character and gain exp in a MMORPG is blasphemy.
    Are MUDs not considered MMOs?
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  5. #565
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    Skill based game ? Do you know the amount of people that don't even try to play decently ?
    I was speaking of a hypothetical game designed around not having a leveling system. ;P
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  6. #566
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    RosaLunaCelestia's Avatar
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    Luna Luorc'a
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    No , no and no !
    New players need to do all we did since beginning. Step by step and learn.
    Why rush ... ? To have all and boring after ?
    Its how i feel it.
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  7. #567
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    The biggest reason I don't see the need for a leveling potion is that this game doesn't have NEARLY a robust enough endgame scene to support the mentality of, "the true game starts at endgame". It works for WoW (kind of) because a.) factions actually significantly impact gameplay, b.) they place a heavy emphasis on endgame raiding and difficult dungeoneering to keep your character in the best gear, and c.) you actually have to level a brand new character to play another class, all of which are race-locked to boot.

    XIV doesn't do any of those things, really. The best thing they could do is remove the MSQ gating for every little thing, and make things level-gated instead, so that once players get to the level where the "fun" starts they can jump right in.
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  8. #568
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    Its ok though new players apparently hate leveling and doing MSQs so they deserve an INSTAIWINBUTTON! Otherwise they won't play and we can't have that......
    Way to misconstrue an argument.

    I enjoy leveling (that's why I have a bazillion alts in every mmo I play). What I don't enjoy are things being arbitrarily locked behind hours and hours of mandatory story quest, especially when that story is boring as heck. >_<
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  9. #569
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    Velhart's Avatar
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDean View Post
    Not having to level a character and gain exp in a MMORPG is blasphemy.
    I remember in 1.0, they said before the game was released that they were going to get rid of levels and progressed in a new manner. Then we get the game and turned out they gave us -two- bars to level up. Physical Level and Class Level, and the EXP was RNG. Good going, old FFXIV team!
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  10. #570
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    I remember in 1.0, they said before the game was released that they were going to get rid of levels and progressed in a new manner. Then we get the game and turned out they gave us -two- bars to level up. Physical Level and Class Level, and the EXP was RNG. Good going, old FFXIV team!
    The system was pretty interesting since it was more of a rank up system rather then levels. I understood why they wanted to award rank points in the way they did but from what we saw it was pretty abused in the beginning and switching it to after a kill was a better option. I wish they still called them ranks since it was more about the weapons we used.
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