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  1. #551
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    KitingGenbu's Avatar
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    Alex Carver
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by WinterLuna View Post
    If players find the grind too long then SE should simply cut out some of the quests or make them optional. In my opinion players should never be able to buy levels.
    They could lower the exp curve as well, like wow did.
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  2. #552
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    For the health of the game, they need to take action to streamline the process for new players. This is one of the only MMOs that requires you to go through story content to access new areas. While I love the storyline part of that design, it's not good for the future of the game. What happens when we're 10 expansions down the line? We will never get new blood if we make them take months and months to reach the expansion area they were first interested in.
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  3. #553
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    For the health of the game, they need to take action to streamline the process for new players. This is one of the only MMOs that requires you to go through story content to access new areas. While I love the storyline part of that design, it's not good for the future of the game. What happens when we're 10 expansions down the line? We will never get new blood if we make them take months and months to reach the expansion area they were first interested in.
    Exactly. Unfortunately, streamlining ARR would be an expensive endeavor. While not ideal, a jump potion is the most cost efficient means of allowing accessibility without impacting veteran players. Yes, we'll have inexperienced players in DF, but that will inevitably settle itself. People genuinely interested in the game will learn and those who aren't will eventually quit.
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  4. #554
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    Naunet's Avatar
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KitingGenbu View Post
    They could lower the exp curve as well, like wow did.
    That wouldn't help things. The problem here isn't the levels - it's the slog through the story quest that's required to do ANYTHING in the game. The only thing selling level potions or modifying the experience curve would do is make it so I'm level 60 working through ARR story instead of level 54.
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  5. #555
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    Lokier's Avatar
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    Lokier Ame
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    Louisoix
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Why can't they just remove the lock on the lvl 50 quest going into Ishgard? You can still have it you need to level from 1 to 50 and learn how to play your class. Removing the need to do the quests seems fair to me, especially if you're like some people I know who don't give an utter toss about you, any NPC or the dungeons. All they want to do is gathering and professions. :P

    They could just make it you have to level to 30 and do the main arc until you're a Scion and you have your battle-chicken; after that you're free to further your goals with them, or help the nation via dungeons, gathering,the grand company etc... That, and you don't get any of the mounts, mini-pets or titles unless you do the story. That way anyone who did do the entire story arc is still a spesheru snowflake-u!
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    Last edited by Lokier; 08-04-2016 at 08:23 AM.

  6. #556
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    JimmyDean's Avatar
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    Ultimate Warrior
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 50
    This is like putting Mike Tyson Punch out in a Nintendo and turning it on and being like "Wait. I have to learn this game and beat all these other people to be able to fight Mike Tyson?" "No thanks. Im out" Is this really what gamers want these days? omg
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  7. #557
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    LalafellDown's Avatar
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    Ultima Ultima
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    Tonberry
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lokier View Post
    Why can't they just remove the lock on the lvl 50 quest going into Ishgard?
    It keeps the bots out and as long as SE keeps implementing requirements to enter new expansion areas, eventually the Gil sellers will find it harder to sell Gil because the new items will be the more demanding and not Gil. Perhaps they introduce a new type of currency in 4.0 Gil seller will never be able to get their hands on it with their bots. I hope 4.0 has some kind of restriction to prevent bots from entering like 3.0 does.

    Not seeing a bot in 3.0 is nice, no one spamming for you to buy their Gil.
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  8. #558
    Player Mindiori's Avatar
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    Reika Hanehara
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDean View Post
    This is like putting Mike Tyson Punch out in a Nintendo and turning it on and being like "Wait. I have to learn this game and beat all these other people to be able to fight Mike Tyson?" "No thanks. Im out" Is this really what gamers want these days? omg
    Welcome to the world of instant gratification and the pathetic casual; who expects everything for nothing because..well, 'They haz busy livez!'

    In the past we had the brainpower to understand that if you make commitments - thats a choice. Something that you pay for with time. If people dont have that time for other things because of other responsibilities - boohoo, that's on them. The game shouldn't be forced to change to fit their whims and they certainly shouldn't be allowed to ruin games for others; just because of their own selfishness and concept of personal priorities. It's about time people were forced to work for what they have again. Instead of being given free welfare hand outs because they lack the fortitude to even survive a 30 second youtube clip without falling asleep. The genre has become an apathetic joke. Much like western society en-mass.
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    Last edited by Mindiori; 08-04-2016 at 12:42 PM.

  9. #559
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    TaranTatsuuchi's Avatar
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    Leveling should never be able to be bought.

    Just remove the EXP bar all together if you're going to do this and make every single enemy max level.
    If a game is designed with it in mind...

    You don't need to have a leveling system at all to provide a good experience.
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  10. #560
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    JimmyDean's Avatar
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    Ultimate Warrior
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi View Post
    If a game is designed with it in mind...

    You don't need to have a leveling system at all to provide a good experience.
    Not having to level a character and gain exp in a MMORPG is blasphemy.
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