DPSing as a healer

[Tsumes]

I play on PS4. I know how it works. I don't play on PC, I don't even have a PC account. I have a DPS hot bar and a Heal Hot bar.
But thanks for trying.
And for the record your character isn't even high enough level to be in a raid group. Your highest level character is a 53 Arcanist/Scholar/Summoner.
We're talking Savage content here. Level 60. When you get there and try to get in a raid, it ain't gonna happen if you play like you do now. Everyone at end game isn't Elitist, but they won't tolerate purposely suboptimal play.
You'll notice there's not a single parse for all of Savage Content where BOTH healers have zero DPS. The main healer will have low DPS (~100) but never zero.

Because of course. Everyone uses a 3rd party site to log stats so they can brag about being "optimal".
Contradicting yourself isn't exactly helping your case. Not that I really care. It's not me your trying to convince.

I'll just say you're right because you obviously need to hear it.

[FunkyBunch]

Because of course. Everyone uses a 3rd party site to log stats so they can brag about being "optimal".
Contradicting yourself isn't exactly helping your case. Not that I really care. It's not me your trying to convince.

I'll just say you're right because you obviously need to hear it.

How am I contradicting myself? Main healers do less DPS and all the healing, secondary healers do lots of DPS and almost no healing. This is savage content. It's tough. And even though it's the hardest content in the game, the main healer still does DPS.

[Parawill]

Because of course. Everyone uses a 3rd party site to log stats so they can brag about being "optimal".
Contradicting yourself isn't exactly helping your case. Not that I really care. It's not me your trying to convince.

I'll just say you're right because you obviously need to hear it.

Now you're just throwing in things that are irrelevant to prove your point. While it is understandable that some players prefer not to heal because of their playstyle, things such as controllers and ego boosting does not change the fact that the healer who heals only provides healing, and the healer that heals & DPS'es offers more than the former.

[Tsumes]

things such as controllers and ego boosting does not change the fact that the healer who heals only provides healing, and the healer that heals & DPS'es offers more than the former.

I've said it multiple times already. I'm not saying you, her, him, or who ever is wrong. I've actually said you're right on a few occasions.
I don't care what DPSing offers. I prefer a relaxed non-elitist style of play. Yet they still seem to think I'm trying to prove something. I don't have anything to prove, to you, her or anyone else. I was simply stating my style of play. So I'll say it again.

I don't care what DPSing does to improve or slow down a group. I prefer to play a relaxed non-forced style of play that allows me to enjoy the game as opposed to bull rushing through it like elitists. If you're bothered by people not DPSing as a healer. Simply form your own group and don't use the public system. If I was trying to force my style of play on to others then you'd have ground to stand on. As it stands, you currently do not.

[CBellz]

I don't care what DPSing offers. I prefer a relaxed non-elitist style of play. .

I mean personally, I'd be bored out of my skull if I didn't DPS. Most of the healing in this game requires you to cast like 1 GCD or oGCD every 5 seconds or even more, especially if you're a scholar. 90% of the 8 man party content in this game can be solohealed without any real difficulty, which means the if the second healer didn't DPS he could probably eat dinner or take a short bathroom break during a pull and no one would notice.

Sometimes I queue into a dungeon and I tell myself I won't DPS because I'm too lazy. I can't go more than 5 minutes without itching to do something because I'm bored of pressing buttons once every decade. It just feels a little unfair to the DPS trying to milk every little GCD they have if I put in 10% of the effort they do and half afk when running content.

[Tsumes]

I mean personally, I'd be bored out of my skull if I didn't DPS.

I can see where you're coming from with this. In other MMOs I've played it was a rolling issue that healers would often go AFK during fights, and yea. I do get bored sometimes. But's extremely rare and only happens when the tank is extremely good and the DPS is extremely bad. I'll put this way though. I play characters that are more in tune with the way I like to handle life. I'm a laid back person. So button mashing games irritate me. That's why I've always played healing classes. They allow me to enjoy the game without being overwhelmed by the fact that I'm expected to push out every inkle of damage possible.

[FunkyBunch]

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It's not elitist to expect you to play like the Hall of the Novice tells you to. The Hall of the NOVICE. It's not called Hall of the Elitist OMFG DPS TO THE MAX NO HEALS QQ GOOD PLAYERS ONLY.
It's not even tough to do, it's not like you have to scramble to click things.
Especially outside of raids.
It can be a bit tough to set up the hot bars (5-10 mins), but if you do, it's nearly impossible to not DPS.
You just click the next thing.
Oh, tank is 50-75% health? Click Cleric, Click hotbar one, click Heal spell of choice until full. You have like 5-10 seconds to do it, and can do it pretty lazily.
No one's asking you to max out every single point of damage and heal at the absolute min amount of health to do all the DEEPS.

All we would like, is for you to learn to click cleric stance, a couple dots or Gravity/Holy at the beginning of an encounter (or end) and then you can stand around doing nothing.

[Tsumes]

It's not elitist to expect you to play like the Hall of the Novice tells you to. The Hall of the NOVICE. It's not called Hall of the Elitist OMFG DPS TO THE MAX NO HEALS QQ GOOD PLAYERS ONLY.

The hall of novice wasn't put in place when I started playing. So I'm not going to 180 my way of playing because of a feature that should've been in place since 1.0

[FunkyBunch]

The hall of novice wasn't put in place when I started playing. So I'm not going to 180 my way of playing because of a feature that should've been in place since 1.0

Why do you think they added the Hall of Novice? It's because players would get to level 60 and be terrible and not know how to do their job.
Just be not terrible. Just be better than a Faerie, or a bot or a chocobo. I'm not asking for you to do 1000 DPS a fight.
No is asking you to perform raid quality.

[FunkyBunch]

The hall of novice wasn't put in place when I started playing. So I'm not going to 180 my way of playing because of a feature that should've been in place since 1.0

Also, why not start a new class (WHM for example) do the Hall of the Novice and just be not terrible with the new healer? Best of every world for everyone.