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  1. #161
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    Gramul's Avatar
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    Eisen Gramul
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burn View Post
    Having to group to progress through content that starts after one reaches the level cap = OK, not well, you better party otherwise its going to be so slow you'll want to stab your eyes out = fail and reeks of 2003 mentality.

    Only the FF community continues to make such a big deal about the pace of leveling where other successful MMO's that have made a ton of money start at the level cap and offer fast paced content. I guess you FFXI purists want to prance around in town and say "LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, I'M LEVEL 50!!!!!!!" give me a break, stop the special snowflake crap already.

    I find it so funny that people sit there and complain about how fast people level up in this game since it released where as in other games the pace of leveling is such a non-issue because the challenge begins in gearing up by fighting some tough content.

    But lo' and behold, you FFXI purists sit there and think the only way people should level is by grouping up which can take hours to find a group of your leveling range then riding out to the said camp hoping its not flooded with other parties.

    People should be able to level at a decent pace solo, sure it might not be those 100k+/hr parties but atleast people should feel like they're accomplishing something.

    Maybe some people like level progression based gameplay. Maybe they think that just because the most popular games have fast paced progression, not every game has to do it. Maybe they think group centralized play is good for a comunity, expecially one as insanley quiet as XIV has been.

    Maybe being a niche game is good for it. Instead of getting lost in all the other MMO's where the content starts at end game making you wonder why it even has levels to begin with.

    Maybe this whole thing is simply a matter of opinions and taste in which no one is really right or wrong.
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  2. #162
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    Ava Faye
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatLeviathan View Post
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    I regularly chain 5 on my level 30 archer and get very high exp rates solo. It's quite easy, I don't equip any odd spells that I wouldn't have pre patch. I kill mobs no more than 2 levels higher than me, and try to stick exclusively to equal level or +1 mobs. I would rather lose a chain than attack a mob +3 levels, and when you throw in +2 level mobs you risk the higher end of your chain too.

    If you pace yourself (think FFXI, if you played it), watch your chain timer, and make sure you have cooldowns for the higher end of the chain, you'll be able to push to chain 4 for sure, and after you get the hang of it, chain 5. In addition, don't spam your TP attacks until the mob is around 35-40% hp. Once a mob gets to that point, unload your TP and kill it quickly, this will enable you to take significantly less damage. Use excess chain time to stand still and regen as much hp/mp as you can before moving on to your next target. If you do all of this properly, you will get about 1200 exp solo every chain, with little to no real downtime.

    Leveling solo isn't hard at all, and powerleveling isn't the only option. This same exact thing (minus the powerleveling) happened at 1.18 patch for mages, and we made it through just fine. Now it's melee's turn. You just need to adapt.
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  3. #163
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    Jennestia's Avatar
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    Kanikou Escaflowne
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ava View Post
    You just need to adapt.
    A lot of recent MMOs have trained people against this which is quite unfortunate. Heck I'm watching my sister solo right now just fine. The main problem lone wolves are having is that they aren't getting content suited for them.
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  4. #164
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    Ace Aether
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    I don't know about you but last i checked MMORPG stood for, Mostly Men Role-Playing Girls!

    On topic I think most people that play an MMMORPG play because they can group with people and defeat otherwise impossible enemies to get the Phat Loot. If you could solo everything than it wouldn't be a Massive Multiplayer Online game. That's not to say that LEVELING solo should be a punishable game-style.
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  5. #165
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavani View Post
    That's not to say that LEVELING solo should be a punishable game-style.
    Indeed, it just shouldn't be as efficient if not better than group based leveling like some say it should be.
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  6. #166
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    Patricia Lanvaldear
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    Who, exactly, says that?
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  7. #167
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    Excessum Leviathan
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Funny, people who like to solo are telling people who like to party that it's an outdated playstyle, so I think it's not the people who like group content that needs to "get over something".
    Funny thing is that it was not me that said that. get your facts right.
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  8. #168
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    go read my post miss senior moderator...
    Where did i ever say that i want more content?
    Tell me where?
    All i did was a quest as there is no lvl 44 nor 45 quests so i picked 46 as i always did and couldt take the 3 lvl 46's thats all i said.
    People sadly enough don't read before they troll.

    And on lvl 20 and 30 mobs hardly fight :-)
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  9. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatLeviathan View Post
    Where did i ever say that i want more content?
    Show me where I stated "Greatleviathan wants more solo content". Just reading these forums people make it pretty clear they want the option to solo or do it in a group, this means making solo based content as well as group based content, because if you create content that can soloed or done in a group, it will not be balanced in any way.
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  10. #170
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Show me where I stated "Greatleviathan wants more solo content". Just reading these forums people make it pretty clear they want the option to solo or do it in a group, this means making solo based content as well as group based content, because if you create content that can soloed or done in a group, it will not be balanced in any way.
    You said that on a qoute of me
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