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    I had no problem with mounts in the cash shop that are just some other color of another ingame mount and I was already a little sad that they put Sleipnir in it instead of being able to get this in the game. But I got it in a sale months later, so at least it was not that costly..but paying 21 Euro for this?? Why do you have to put it in the cash shop instead of making it something you can earn ingame? :/ I really thought that the red fenrir would be for the mogstation and that this one will be earned..I really hope that this is not a trend by making more and more mounts and pets exclusive for the mogstation...we are paying a sub already and it would be nice if the time was not wasted on something that we have to pay on top of that..

    At least in games like Black desert you only have to buy the game once and never have to pay a single € again so I can understand that a complete cloth set with a weapon will cost 35 €. (But you can buy it for less without the weapon or even just parts of the clothes..) Here we already pay monthly and should at least have the possibility to earn things ingame..I have nothing against recolors or being able to buy and earn it at the same time so people that dont want to take the time can buy it. But creating something only for the mogstation and making it cost nearly double of a monthly sub is really bad...

    I hope to god that at least some of this cash shop moneys goes back into this game...
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    Last edited by Alleo; 07-26-2016 at 06:28 PM.
    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Why do you have to put it in the cash shop instead of making it something you can earn ingame? :/
    Because people keep buying in their CS and, worse of all, keep asking for things to be put in CS .
    No wonder why they keep (and will probably increase) adding item there instead of in game considering in game items cost money to developp and CS items brings money in (and we all know this money will probably never go into FF14 dev team....)

    If we don't want items to be put in mog station we need to stop buying from it , they will either stop putting "exclusive" things (a loss i know but still better than that) or put it IG via grind to make money because as long as you grind, you pay a sub but, in the end, you get a chance to get your item

    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    Dunno why people complain 21euro is almost the same price as bennu mount when it got released. Buy it if you want if not then simply dont? Shh people act like THEY HAVE to buy. There are 3 mounts only 3 on mogstation and ppl complain lmao.
    Of course we don't HAVE to buy it but if we like it, we have no choice but to buy it. You can eat for 3 or 4 days with 21€, why only the rich ones could get that moubnt when we all, poor included, pay the same sub ?
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    Last edited by Celef; 07-26-2016 at 06:46 PM.
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    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Because people keep buying in their CS and, worse of all, keep asking for things to be put in CS .
    No wonder why they keep (and will probably increase) adding item there instead of in game considering in game items cost money to developp and CS items brings money in (and we all know this money will probably never go into FF14 dev team....)

    If we don't want items to be put in mog station we need to stop buying from it , they will either stop putting "exclusive" things (a loss i know but still better than that) or put it IG via grind to make money because as long as you grind, you pay a sub but, in the end, you get a chance to get your item
    As long people want certain items that are currently unobtainable for them, they will throw in their money onto the shop.
    Right now Edda's outfit is the glamour hot topic right now.
    Previously it was Y'shtola and Thancred with their new looks and haircuts - Guess what was found in the files of 3.35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    As long people want certain items that are currently unobtainable for them, they will throw in their money onto the shop.
    Right now Edda's outfit is the glamour hot topic right now.
    Previously it was Y'shtola and Thancred with their new looks and haircuts - Guess what was found in the files of 3.35
    I know but we should not have to BUY these in a sub game. Let them add these in CS, if we, all together, stop buyint these, they might stop adding them.
    I'm not against CS, i'm just against CS in a 13€ monthly game. At least make it F2P and do like some others MMO where, when you have a sub, you get CS money every month for supporting the game (like TSW - EQ2 - Rift etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    If we don't want items to be put in mog station we need to stop buying from it, they will either stop putting "exclusive" things (a loss i know but still better than that) or put it IG via grind to make money because as long as you grind, you pay a sub but, in the end, you get a chance to get your item

    Of course we don't HAVE to buy it but if we like it, we have no choice but to buy it. You can eat for 3 or 4 days with 21€, why only the rich ones could get that moubnt when we all, poor included, pay the same sub ?
    Replying to bolded parts. Why should the rich have an option to buy exclusive cosmetic items? You said it yourself: because there's a chance that these items would not have been made at all if they weren't going to charge money for them. They probably have a separate budget to work with. If the items are not funded with our sub $£€ (my guess is that mog station items are funded by mog station profits) then obviously we are not entitled to the items without paying more than our sub cost.

    It would be much worse to never have these cool mounts as an option at all. Same with the promotional and region exclusive items. I would love for everything to be available to everyone but if that's not going to happen I'll take the second best option and watch other people enjoy their items. Wanting to deny everyone a chance at some cosmetic items just because you can't have it smells like jealousy. You can still play the game and ride other mounts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    I know but we should not have to BUY these in a sub game. Let them add these in CS, if we, all together, stop buyint these, they might stop adding them.
    I'm not against CS, i'm just against CS in a 13€ monthly game. At least make it F2P and do like some others MMO where, when you have a sub, you get CS money every month for supporting the game (like TSW - EQ2 - Rift etc).
    To me the sub doesn't mean that I get all the creative works ever made for that game without additional fees. It means I get the game, have an equal footing to play it than everyone else and there are no pay to win mechanics. WoW finally implemented pay to win in it's latest expansion but it in all fairness it also went free to play (technically).

    I don't think you'll have much success talking people into not buying these items, because most people realize it's just cosmetic luxury stuff that they're funding by paying that extra cost. The retainer service is much much more concerning IMO. Now that's almost pay to win. Never seen a game company so shamelessly abusing the most basic commodity of an RPG, the inventory space.

    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    I though a P2P community would have way more critical sense about these subjects and instead I'm just meeting the same old whales from f2p korean mmos.
    I've never played a Korean F2P MMO but I'll gladly be compared to a whale. They are amazing, intelligent creatures.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 07-26-2016 at 08:15 PM.
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