Should I Kick before being Kicked?

[DPZ2]

Make it so that you don't have to say your an "inexperienced tank" on the forums.

Just to be clear here, you are not condoning the behavior of the rest of the party, right?

Aaaaand, you are telling a level 40 tank, who had probably never tanked that particular instance before, that performing like a level 60 tank with dozens of runs of instances is expected behavior for new tanks?

Clarify as necessary, because what I read in your message boiled down to that.

[Claymore022]

Just to be clear here, you are not condoning the behavior of the rest of the party, right?

Aaaaand, you are telling a level 40 tank, who had probably never tanked that particular instance before, that performing like a level 60 tank with dozens of runs of instances is expected behavior for new tanks?

Clarify as necessary, because what I read in your message boiled down to that.

Yes the ppl in that dungeon where very rude to you and i especially disagree with the fact that the healer stopped healing you when you tried to do your job but the underlying problem here is that you are refusing to better yourself.

No, What you're doing is focusing on one line of my post and reading it out of context. A level 40 tank won't play like a level 60, even if he's good, he doesn't have the job skills to do so. The issue was that he wanted us to go slowly behind him when it was unnecessary and refused to try to play at our pace. It's not like anyone was doing big pulls or expected big pulls, we just didn't want to sit there after every pull for a min+ for him to think about his next move. There's literally nothing to think about, all he has to do is use that same weapon skills as he did in the last pull and he would have been fine. Instead he wanted to go slow and so the other dps just started moving ahead and since the healer could keep us all up we just followed suit. He seems to run into these issues in a lot of the dungeons he does so i suggested that he just get better at the game. Look up guides and watch videos of how other tanks play and he won't have issues with other ppl who just want to get the dungeon done. If he does this then he'll learn to recognize that he's in a group that knows what they're doing and all he has to do is basically say he's new at the start of the dungeon and then just enjoy the ride. If there's something he needs to know then someone will tell him, if the group wants him to pull faster then all he's gotta do is keep going from mob to mob and the healer will make up for the rest. He will basically learn proper dungeon etiquette.

Now after reading one of his more recent posts, i can now see that he wants to enjoy the dungeons nice and slow as a new experience and sadly he won't find that in this game unless he gets 3 other ppl who are new to help him with this. The only way to truly experience a lot of this stuff as if it were new is to catch up to current content.

Wait, I'm confused... Hopefully I'm reading this wrong, and there's more I don't know about since I wasn't there to see any of it, but I'm getting the impression here that the rest of the party tried to force the OP into moving at a faster pace than he was comfortable with, started pulling ahead of him when he didn't change his pace to meet their demands, and expected him to be okay with that? And when he reacted to it, the healer punished him by letting him die numerous times and everybody blames him 100%.

...But that being said, I also wouldn't expect a tank in the situation I just described to be all unicorns and rainbows about that kind of treatment.

Yes, that is pretty much exactly what happened other than blaming him 100%. The healer's decision was completely counterproductive. And no i wouldn't expect a tank to be comfortable with that situation either.