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  1. #31
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    Eumona's Avatar
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    Increscent Moon
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Not really, OP just doesn't know it yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chabetsu View Post
    this thread is still going on( *`ω´)
    If the thread was over it would be locked. Though it seems your just trying to be facetious and undermine the post (which can suggest rudeness).

    Is this where both of you express malice or after reading this part, reply apathetically (or to choose not to respond at all to circumvent the first two options). Will either of you choose to say how I should let it go despite my "mistreatment"? Will you reply with a quib about me being a child or that I sound combative or even abrasive, the very same traits your recent post seem to suggest?

    The point is communicating with this community is an unnecessary risk when learning how to do well in FFXIV (e.g. being locked into paradoxical situation like I was in). Yes, as a whole this community seems to be "better" than most. However, it shares what most if not all communities tend to lack, equity.
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  2. #32
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    Chabetsu's Avatar
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    J'd Chabetsu
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    Ultros
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    Ninja Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Eumona View Post
    If the thread was over it would be locked. Though it seems your just trying to be facetious and undermine the post (which can suggest rudeness).

    Is this where both of you express malice or after reading this part, reply apathetically (or to choose not to respond at all to circumvent the first two options). Will either of you choose to say how I should let it go despite my "mistreatment"? Will you reply with a quib about me being a child or that I sound combative or even abrasive, the very same traits your recent post seem to suggest?

    The point is communicating with this community is an unnecessary risk when learning how to do well in FFXIV (e.g. being locked into paradoxical situation like I was in). Yes, as a whole this community seems to be "better" than most. However, it shares what most if not all communities tend to lack, equity.
    ( *`ω´) lots of unnecessary big words
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  3. #33
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    Warrior Lv 50
    Well too many players haven't given me benefit of the doubt.

    My thread was about what was the mindset of the community about my kicking idea. Instead, a "flood" of comments on my character and lectures to me on matters I have explored in depth (pre-thread). Then I get a comment telling me its over; basically suggesting take it for what its worth and move on. So may be a little more "meat" is needed in my posts.
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  4. #34
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    I can't honestly think of any DF situation in which you'd need to use chat to coordinate. It may be necessary to improve party conditions, but coordination in a given moment is well beyond DF.

    You're dealing with a mixture of convention and habit. The prior usually leads to the fastest runs with minimal standard error, but those following it may assume party conditions that are not presently accurate. The latter may include Physic-spamming SCHs, no-positional melee, DoT-less DPS, or no CD tanks. Ask for a pre-Adlo, ask that heals be held during the pull itself if not all mobs can be grabbed with a single AoE, ask that DPS follow marks when given. The rest is pretty well out of your direct control, but a surprising amount can be done with quick, neutral comments, rather than discussion, and leading with your back—especially if you at least look like you're the kind of guy who'd turn around when it's needed.

    The only real way to prevent a kick is, as you said, to incite a vote—any vote—and chain pull without further upsetting anyone until the thought of kicking you is forgotten. However, if they determined you're the one who started the vote, that becomes very unlikely. As such, it's not a realistic option. Worse, chances are it's a premade that will be kicking you unless you are doing something very wrong (which, to many, can be as little as pulling too hesitantly, not timing your CDs to maximize healer dps where healer AoE filler is poor, or forcing the healer to maintain a health percentage on you because you don't mitigate certain tankbusters when he'd rather be perfecting DoT uptime, but to most will be along the lines of unagreeableness, or a failure to keep up on your GCDs and pulls even while arguing). They can, albeit through abuse, kick you for as little as wanting to give a friend his daily bonus instead, at the last boss. You'll probably find a few threads on that exact subject from over the course of ARR. Against one, you're kind of shit out of luck.
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