Disappointed in Youkai Watch

[Vidu]

Why are some of you trying to invalidate the OP's opinion? You call him a troll yet can't post anything but meme's and a sarcastic comment for likes.

'It's not your game' oh really? By that logic, nobody should complain about anything in FFXIV because 'it's not our game'. If you don't agree with him then simply say you don't agree instead of being rude and acting like his opinion means nothing just because you don't like it. I'm tired of seeing people try to undermine people's opinions on the Forums.

This isn't aimed at everyone. If you have a valid argument that's completely different.

I have given this a bit of a thought and would like to share those with you now.

My problem with the OP isnt their opinion, really. I can even understand that some might not like the style and design of the Yokai-items since they're pretty... "special". My problem is really the reasoning they choose and their childish attitude that came with it. Lore? Immersion? By this standards OP couldnt be an Au Ra Dragoon -> Au Ra, because that would conflict with Yugiri hiding her face in FFXIVs very own storyline and dragoon because they're dragonKILLERS in FFXIV while they were friends with the dragons in FFII (where they come from, hello Richard!). The problem here is that OP themself doesnt have a valid argument! "Lore" is such a cheap one, honestly, when there are so many things in this game already that have the potenial to break your immersion (Twintania as a mount, yeah, sure...).
So the question would be: Why does OP doesnt have a problem with those?
And my guess would be: Because they accepted them as part of the game, overlooked them or didnt even thought about them at all. They're raising a few times how important it is for them that things that are added to the game are Final Fantasy related. If thats really their problem, I can only ask them to give the devs the chance and option to change their game and add stuff to it. Without that we would never see any progress (the famour quote from Henry Ford (?) comes to mind: "If I'd asked the customer what they wanted, I would have build a faster horse-drawn carriage [not a car]").

I also have the feeling that OP is a bit... overreacting and hasty with their judgment - seeing how the merchant we can exchange our medals is located in the Gold Saucer, why not assume that its somehow related to the Gold Saucer in general? Which would open the doors for a lot of "explanation" for those fluffy little guys.

And I kinda feel the need to repeat this: Such collabs - even if you consider them "cheap fanservice" (and apparently not fanservice that you like, thats okay, I didnt liked the FFXI-event nor the rewards) - are only beneficial for a game that you seem to love and care about.
For the theory that 3.3 was shorter because they spended time with making the Yokai-event... I highly doubt it. They added a LOT with 3.3/3.35 but we're at the end of this patch cylce and they're probably working at the next expansion

[WinterLuna]

I have given this a bit of a thought and would like to share those with you now.

You actually took the time to argue the OP's reasoning though, and didn't just post a meme and a sarcastic comment. That's what I have a problem with. People will come on here and try to invalidate other people without a solid argument, or try to humiliate them for likes, and I think that's wrong.

If people can provide good reasons to argue, I wasn't speaking about those people. Please don't take it the wrong way

[NovaLevossida]

Im only dissapointed that its atma reloaded, again.
Immersion, lol and your tank running through a dungeon in a bikini isnt?

YoshiP said casters can't wear armor because they have to look like casters, and casters wouldn't look like casters if they were wearing armor. So, he definitely cares about immersion. But snowman / reindeer / moogle / bikini / maid outfit tanks are lore-friendly.

[Lisotte]

YoshiP said casters can't wear armor because they have to look like casters, and casters wouldn't look like casters if they were wearing armor. So, he definitely cares about immersion. But snowman / reindeer / moogle / bikini / maid outfit tanks are lore-friendly.

Maybe YOUR casters can't wear armour, but my Dated Haubergeon begs to differ.

Also I'm damn sure at least half the people complaining about "MY IMMMERRRRSSSIIOOOONNN" would be all fine and dandy if this was a Pokemon event. Because for those who don't follow other games, Yokai Watch is basically Pokemon but new and improved. Also makes me chuckle when people assume Yokai Watch is just a kids' show; it's got its' own kids show based on the game, same as Pokemon.

Also like other said, you get rid of the crazy glowy unrealistic weapons, tankinis, and characters dressed up as Minfilia and Nanamo and then we can talk immersion.

[Vials]

Don't like it's addition myself, it's advertisement content put in place because Pokémon Go is creaming the market.

[Aylis]

I'm sorry but I disagree, it doesn't matter if it's here or if it's in another game. Immersion breaks will always be a thing and I personally have yet to find and play a single MMO where something in the game exists that doesn't break immersion for someone. It's fine though and as long as people are enjoying whatever it is then who am I to pass judgment on the mount, glamor, or whatever it is they find fun. It's totally okay to break away from the seriousness for a little to just have some silly fun. Of all the things to complain about in any game immersion breaks are far low on my list.

As for the Call of Duty thing....you'd be surprised. When World of Warships did their April Fools event and released a map that was a bathtub and players were driving toy boats. Players raved about it and wanted the map to stay in it year round I remember my friend telling me.

It's okay to have a sense of humor and it's okay to let other players enjoy something and be happy even if it's not something you enjoy.

[Vidu]

YoshiP said casters can't wear armor because they have to look like casters, and casters wouldn't look like casters if they were wearing armor. So, he definitely cares about immersion. But snowman / reindeer / moogle / bikini / maid outfit tanks are lore-friendly.

Thats two different things though - all those "funny" outfits arent to be taken serious (Surprise!) and thats what makes them okay - they're not really supposed to be lore-friendly, they are their so we can put on a silly costume (or use it for RP-reasons, if you're into that etc.).
"Real" armor on the other hand IS connected to lore and therefor they're sticking to that. Look how your casters CAN wear a certain piece of armor thats more... mmh... knight-like - I'm talking about the veterans rewards ofc, Firions armor. Its a costume and thats pretty clear and thats why casters can wear it.

Might be only me but I feel like the devs are totally allowed to break they're lore-rules from time to time and throw a bit of fun into this game - if they didnt do that we wouldnt see Au Ra as playable races, no male Miqos, a duskwit elezen wouldnt have much fun etc. etc. As long as its limited to only certain items that are clearly marked as "fun"-item (aka being level 1, can be worn by every class/job, having no real stats) or events like this, that are limited to a certain time, I dont see anything wrong with this. Ofc they shouldnt overdo this! But thinking how in three years the only other event that wasnt tied to another FF-game was Dragon Quest (or am I forgetting something...?) I wouldnt say there is a huge risk here...

[CherryCola]

Don't like it's addition myself, it's advertisement content put in place because Pokémon Go is creaming the market.

To be fair, data miners found traces of Yokai-Watch minions in FF14 code quite a while back, so it's obvious something related has been in planning for a good bit. Pokémon Go's recent success has nothing to do with it. Just a concidence.

[AlexanderThorolund]

I'm still waiting for my apology from the OP for this thread. Possibly one of the worst threads created this year.

[AlexanderThorolund]

You actually took the time to argue the OP's reasoning though, and didn't just post a meme and a sarcastic comment. That's what I have a problem with. People will come on here and try to invalidate other people without a solid argument, or try to humiliate them for likes, and I think that's wrong.

If people can provide good reasons to argue, I wasn't speaking about those people. Please don't take it the wrong way

Id usually agree with you because I believe In the point you're making in its broader sense. But not here. This thread just drives too far off into the ridiculous to argue by case for it.