Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[Fouluryu]

This thread was only created by two reasons. Either wasn't invited to experience the advantage of exp chaining or feels the need to express getting Lv 50 is some sort of relic sign on FFXIV.

It's not an exploit because the system is working as intended. When having a low level player in a high level players in a party it will mean that the first kill will be high exp for the low rank and low exp for the high level party. When chaining, both high/low players are rewarded with a set of amount of exp appropriate for the level. Example: 900 for a R20 and 560-680 to a R45 player.

People feel the need to complain to make the game a competition.

[Blarp]

This thread was only created by two reasons. Either wasn't invited to experience the advantage of exp chaining or feels the need to express getting Lv 50 is some sort of relic sign on FFXIV.

It's not an exploit because the system is working as intended. When having a low level player in a high level players in a party it will mean that the first kill will be high exp for the low rank and low exp for the high level party. When chaining, both high/low players are rewarded with a set of amount of exp appropriate for the level. Example: 900 for a R20 and 560-680 to a R45 player.

People feel the need to complain to make the game a competition.

Or perhaps it's a legitimate concern. It's not a concern for you, so you can dismiss it as such. Not a very good argument, but, unfortunately, a popular one. Leveling should mean something. I don't play MMO's to be at the level cap and participating in endgame within a week. The best developers in the world can't churn out enough content to sustain something like that.

The journey should be just as interesting as the end goal. That journey is completely marginalized by a system like this. Another term for it would be a sense of progression. Either way, I don't think it's good design to allow players to get to 50 in less than a week. As much as this community hates World of Warcraft, the leveling in this game just became easier and more pointless than WoW.

We'll have to see what the developers think of it, but I can't imagine they're okay with people racing to endgame only to have very few activities to participate in. How exactly will that help SE's cause?

[Travesty]

This thread was only created by two reasons. Either wasn't invited to experience the advantage of exp chaining or feels the need to express getting Lv 50 is some sort of relic sign on FFXIV.

Or, you know, one of the 50 other reasons people have explained in detail in this thread.

People feel the need to complain to make the game a competition.

Wrong. People feel the need to complain when a mechanic that could break the game, and fundamentally alter it to the point of it barely even fitting the "RPG" genre, is needlessly introduced. It has nothing to do with competition. The people complaining about this don't complain about the fact that other players can level faster than them because they have more free time or a bigger linkshell, or anything else. This is not an issue of competition. It's an issue of game mechanics and balance.

[indira]

cheating but you got 25K right???
if its so broken why did you stay in the party?

tip: leave party if its something you dont like.

We'll have to see what the developers think of it, but I can't imagine they're okay with people racing to endgame only to have very few activities to participate in. How exactly will that help SE's cause?

regardless what happens people will complain. SE hasnt raised the level cap yet, they made the game alittle tricker to play. people race to the cap no matter what then say this game sucks, im bored, and go to another game happens in every game nothing new.

[Fouluryu]

Or perhaps it's a legitimate concern. It's not a concern for you, so you can dismiss it as such. Not a very good argument, but, unfortunately, a popular one. Leveling should mean something. I don't play MMO's to be at the level cap and participating in endgame within a week. The best developers in the world can't churn out enough content to sustain something like that.

The journey should be just as interesting as the end goal. That journey is completely marginalized by a system like this. Another term for it would be a sense of progression. Either way, I don't think it's good design to allow players to get to 50 in less than a week. As much as this community hates World of Warcraft, the leveling in this game just became easier and more pointless than WoW.

We'll have to see what the developers think of it, but I can't imagine they're okay with people racing to endgame only to have very few activities to participate in. How exactly will that help SE's cause?

Help SE's cause? Do you realize the mistakes they've made along the lines of the gaming industry? And I'm not talking about FFXIV. Companies makes mistakes and it's a life lesson to learning from them. They're not poor, they're a successful company.

Anyways, I took Pug legit to 50 and helped the party getting them to 50. There's nothing wrong from the party or friends even to return the favor to help the lower players level up. Time is still required to level up and then it eventually slows down near 50. I know this may seem a different example but there are several players who got level 50 on every DOW/M (not SP exploit) in two months. That's not normal and it's questionable. But that's just me expressing my skepticism.

[Blarp]

cheating but you got 25K right???
if its so broken why did you stay in the party?

tip: leave party if its something you dont like.

You heard it here first folks. When there's a mechanic that allows you to hit endgame in a week, you just stop doing it. I have a better idea: The developers could aim for the sweet spot in the middle, but because they're SE and don't seem to understand the words "iterative design" they go from one extreme to the next.

[Fouluryu]

cheating but you got 25K right???
if its so broken why did you stay in the party?

tip: leave party if its something you dont like.


regardless what happens people will complain. SE hasnt raised the level cap yet, they made the game alittle tricker to play. people race to the cap no matter what then say this game sucks, im bored, and go to another game happens in every game nothing new.

My point exactly. People will enjoy an advantage and feel the need to complain just so the other players will not receive the benefit of joining a high level exp chaining. Kinda like the same complaint with summoner exp method from XI.

[Travesty]

I know this may seem a different example but there are several players who got level 50 on every DOW/M (not SP exploit) in two months.

Yeah, bullsh*t. It took the very first person over 7 months to get everything to 50: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...0-on-all-jobss

And even after that everyone thought it was a bot.

I'd like to see your examples of people who did it in 2 months.

[Fouluryu]

Grumble...

[Blarp]

Help SE's cause? Do you realize the mistakes they've made along the lines of the gaming industry? And I'm not talking about FFXIV. Companies makes mistakes and it's a life lesson to learning from them. They're not poor, they're a successful company.

What does that have to do with the topic being discussed? SE needs to slow people down right now, not give them the keys to the F1 car. The fact is that there is not much to do in this game once you hit 50. When leveling is so fast, the expectation is that there's tons of content to participate in once you get there. What do you think will happen when people get there and find there's not much to do at all? All it's going to do is burn players out and have them looking for another game to play.

Anyways, I took Pug legit to 50 and helped the party getting them to 50. There's nothing wrong from the party or friends even to return the favor to help the lower players level up. Time is still required to level up and then it eventually slows down near 50. I know this may seem a different example but there are several players who got level 50 on every DOW/M (not SP exploit) in two months. That's not normal and it's questionable. But that's just me expressing my skepticism.

I think people playing and helping one another is great, but not when it creates an incredibly top heavy game before the game has even gotten off of the ground.