3.4 speculation

[Alleluia]

The parallel between that of Eorzea and Garlemald is best set with the Amerindians and the USA.

How so, specifically? Seems like it would also parallel, say, the British Empire and the Indian subcontinent. Or the Japanese conquering other countries and parts of the mainland during WW2. China vs Tibet. What specifically makes the expansion of the US and the Native Americans the best example?

[Hinoto-no-Ryuji]

It's worth remembering that the eradication of the Primals isn't actually the end goal of Garlemald - it's a means to a totally different end, that being further expansion and conquest. When there are no more Primals in Eorzea, you can bet you 1.0 Miquo'te butts that Garlemald will turn their military might back in our direction, a military might well known to anybody who was around for Silvertear (and I'm sure the leaders aren't exactly blind about what happened when Ala Mhigo was occupied). Yeah, Gaius' offer was very generous, but his sincerity is a hell of a gamble to take, and he's gone now anyways. It actually kind of makes you wonder how much about the Garlean anti-Primal goals the leaders know; surely somebody, on the syndicate or wherever, would have suggested keeping the Primals around just to keep the Garleans at bay if it was widely known? *puts on darksteel foil hat*

But how does that tie back up into 3.4? Who knows! I think how little we actually have to go on is why we keep going off on tangents, here. What I'm most curious to see is how the Warring Triad story goes this time; since we'll be moving towards the next expansion in earnest, I imagine things are really going to start to converge (although I don't see any real intersection happening before 3.5, honestly).

Lastly: I'll outright apologize, Theo. I'm sorry if anything I said came off as a personal attack of any kind; it wasn't meant to, and nothing you said implied Nazi sympathies or Holocaust apologism or whatever ridiculous things you got accused of.

[Frederick22]

Considering how deep the hole is you just dug yourself, I'd say that's a good call! ^_^

Look, you cant accuse someone like this and behave so rude, and still talking about something way of the original topic of this thread, you know?
The comment of Parcher had nothing about something offensive to Theo, still this is not the time or place to make so accusasions. Not a a thread were we are suppose to talk peacefully

My sefl? sure miss, at least not worse than you from accussing someone of such a serious thing. I dont think to tell you that it can be well you know..

[Alleluia]

Look, you cant accuse someone like this and behave so rude, and sill talking about something way of the original topic of this thread, you know?
The comment of Parcher has nothing about something offensive to Theo, still this is not the time or place to make so accusasions. Not a a thread were we are suppose to talk peacefully

My sefl? sure miss, at least not worse than you from accussing someone of such a thing. I dont think to tell you that it can be well you know..

Ok, first, I've not been rude in the slightest. You told Theodric you didn't see any posts where he was accused of being a flat-earther or sympathetic to Nazism. I quoted the posts that accused him of such to you b/c you said that you hadn't seen them. It was intended to be helpful. The only mildly combative thing I said in that post was that the writer of the two posts (PArcher) I provided quotes of was being ridiculous in the personal attacks they were perpetrating. Which I stand by, b/c those attacks ARE ridiculous.

Secondly, I've been on topic. See post #191 and 193. You're the one who responded to me with disproportionate hostility, and you are the one who now continues to make a thing out of it after you said you were done with the conversation.

Thirdly, and this is more in response to your first attempt at admonishing me: you're not the boss of me. So I'll talk about what I want, when I wish to do so. (Within the bounds of the thread's topic, of course.) I will make posts in this forum when I choose to, regardless of how many or how few I've posted beforehand, as is my right to do so.

[Alleluia]

It actually kind of makes you wonder how much about the Garlean anti-Primal goals the leaders know; surely somebody, on the syndicate or wherever, would have suggested keeping the Primals around just to keep the Garleans at bay if it was widely known? *puts on darksteel foil hat*

I dunno. The Eorzeans do know the effect of Primals draining the aether of the area the longer they exist and the effects that can have. I mean, sure nothing stops some short-sighted person from suggesting it, but I can't see it actually being allowed to stand.

The best idea in this vein would have been to allow Ramuh to continue existing since he was confined to the Sylphlands, not looking to expand, and just happens to be strategically positioned to block a Garlean advance through his forest. But even with Ramuh, the same argument has been made that he needs to be dispelled.

[Berethos]

Because that isn't what happened...

Well, it's possible that is what happened.

It's also one of like six different interpretations of that sequence of events that are, for the time being, equally plausible. Depending on what really happened and the motivations behind it from all parities involved, you go from reprehensible actions by Hydaelyn (bringing Minfilia solely to use her lifeforce as a battery) to unfortunate coincidence as you suggest to eventual happy ending and she means to let Minfilia go at the first possible chance to the (almost certainly divisive - I personally don't know how I feel it myself) possibility that Minfilia is being groomed to become a new goddess to replace Hydaelyn somehow.

[Berethos]

It actually kind of makes you wonder how much about the Garlean anti-Primal goals the leaders know; surely somebody, on the syndicate or wherever, would have suggested keeping the Primals around just to keep the Garleans at bay if it was widely known? *puts on darksteel foil hat*

Then the other guy in the room reminds the first guy that keeping Primals around drains aether and results in (to quote the Jackie Chan cartoon) "Bad day bad day bad day!" down the road anyway.

[Velhart]

I think we will get more insight in 3.4 and establish the set up, but we will not see any major transitions into 4.0 until 3.5/3.55. I am really crossing my fingers for a good WoL vs. WoD trial like fight. We just stood there like an idiot while everyone was fighting them. Made 3.1 story a massive disappointment.

[Alleluia]

Quick question: Do we actually have a timeline for when 4.0 will launch? I know that, before 3.0, we got to 2.55 in our patches. But is there any reason that we can't get to, say, 3.9 now? The devs have at least 7 more patches (3.4-3.9) to play with before 4.0 comes out, right? Or am I misunderstanding how the patches can work? I ask b/c, if they have 7 patches to work with still, 3.4 could end up busy work as far as the MSQ goes, couldn't it?

[Velhart]

Quick question: Do we actually have a timeline for when 4.0 will launch? I know that, before 3.0, we got to 2.55 in our patches. But is there any reason that we can't get to, say, 3.9 now? The devs have at least 7 more patches (3.4-3.9) to play with before 4.0 comes out, right? Or am I misunderstanding how the patches can work? I ask b/c, if they have 7 patches to work with still, 3.4 could end up busy work as far as the MSQ goes, couldn't it?

Developers have only confirmed patches up to 3.5. 3.4 will likely hit Sep.-Oct., which would throw 3.5 into the Jan.-Feb. range. Depending on if they drag 3.5 like they did with 2.5, we will likely see the expansion in May-June.

I highly doubt you will see anything past 3.5. At best maybe 3.6, but I think SE plans on dragging 3.5. It all seems to be a repeated pattern of ARR's cycle based on the date we have been receiving them.