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    One thing i don't like about Cid or Lucia is how little they seem to bring up their homeland, i mean i get they don't support their governments current policies but it seems unrealistic how they never bring up details about their lives back home. Like do they have aetheryte travel or something as convenient? is the food bad? do citizens live comfortable lives? do they have good medical care? what are the crime rates? do citizens complain about non garleans stealing their jobs?

    Point being they never seem to bring up what they didn't like/miss about their homeland, the dangers within or the people they served under, they just say "I don't like building weapons/spying for the garleans" and that's it, it's like they're just as ignorant as everyone else. Surely they have some information they would like to share about their former masters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
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    One of the problems you see even in IRL is extremists are often born from immense hardship; extreme oppression (being treated as a "lesser" at best, nothing more than an animal waiting to be slaughtered at worst), losing a war and your lands, the threat of genocide and extermination, and so on are major causes. Even just the perception of such things (even when it is your people's own doing) can lead to this. People turn to this type of religion because there is a promise of revenge, of taking what they feel they deserve, of turning the tables and punishing those who wrong them.

    And the Primals often exemplify this.

    And why trying to find a peaceful solution is better than killing them all

    Then, there's the irony that the Garleans are creating the problem they seek to solve...
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    This just in. Patch 3.4, Hitler invades Hydelen, Winston Chuchill finds something favourable to say about Gaius.

    Still working on completing the story, but to relate to the stated topic of the thread. I wouldn't mind seeing more of Yda and Papalymo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChazNatlo View Post
    This just in. Patch 3.4, Hitler invades Hydelen, Winston Chuchill finds something favourable to say about Gaius.

    Still working on completing the story, but to relate to the stated topic of the thread. I wouldn't mind seeing more of Yda and Papalymo.
    I'm really excited to see them again, which is funny because they're easily my least favorite Scions.

    But Heavansward/3.0 has done SUCH a good gob reintroducing and developing Alphy, Y'shtola and Thancred that I can't wait to see what Square does with them, the rift that seems to be brewing between them has a lot of character potential for both.
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    The parallel between that of Eorzea and Garlemald is best set with the Amerindians and the USA.
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    He doesn't mind us conducting trials so close to his bazaar, so long as he's properly compensated... Yes, Portus, we pay him in sorcery-blasted bird flesh. - Cocobygo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toranja View Post
    The parallel between that of Eorzea and Garlemald is best set with the Amerindians and the USA.
    How so, specifically? Seems like it would also parallel, say, the British Empire and the Indian subcontinent. Or the Japanese conquering other countries and parts of the mainland during WW2. China vs Tibet. What specifically makes the expansion of the US and the Native Americans the best example?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleluia View Post
    Considering how deep the hole is you just dug yourself, I'd say that's a good call! ^_^
    Look, you cant accuse someone like this and behave so rude, and still talking about something way of the original topic of this thread, you know?
    The comment of Parcher had nothing about something offensive to Theo, still this is not the time or place to make so accusasions. Not a a thread were we are suppose to talk peacefully

    My sefl? sure miss, at least not worse than you from accussing someone of such a serious thing. I dont think to tell you that it can be well you know..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    Look, you cant accuse someone like this and behave so rude, and sill talking about something way of the original topic of this thread, you know?
    The comment of Parcher has nothing about something offensive to Theo, still this is not the time or place to make so accusasions. Not a a thread were we are suppose to talk peacefully

    My sefl? sure miss, at least not worse than you from accussing someone of such a thing. I dont think to tell you that it can be well you know..
    Ok, first, I've not been rude in the slightest. You told Theodric you didn't see any posts where he was accused of being a flat-earther or sympathetic to Nazism. I quoted the posts that accused him of such to you b/c you said that you hadn't seen them. It was intended to be helpful. The only mildly combative thing I said in that post was that the writer of the two posts (PArcher) I provided quotes of was being ridiculous in the personal attacks they were perpetrating. Which I stand by, b/c those attacks ARE ridiculous.

    Secondly, I've been on topic. See post #191 and 193. You're the one who responded to me with disproportionate hostility, and you are the one who now continues to make a thing out of it after you said you were done with the conversation.

    Thirdly, and this is more in response to your first attempt at admonishing me: you're not the boss of me. So I'll talk about what I want, when I wish to do so. (Within the bounds of the thread's topic, of course.) I will make posts in this forum when I choose to, regardless of how many or how few I've posted beforehand, as is my right to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleluia View Post
    How so, specifically? Seems like it would also parallel, say, the British Empire and the Indian subcontinent. Or the Japanese conquering other countries and parts of the mainland during WW2. China vs Tibet. What specifically makes the expansion of the US and the Native Americans the best example?
    Because it is easier for your people to relate. The fact this doesn't even cross your minds speaks for itself.
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