"Coming into its own" is too much!

[kuma_aus]

So let's please not approach this with the mindset of "Well I like it/don't mind it, so it's fine. You just want things handed to you."

That's no better than "I don't like it so it's bad." Your whole argument is that it's a "mindless grind". We get it, you don't like it. Don't do it then. I had fun getting my weapon because I just played the game normally like I did every other day. Did what ever content I wanted to, when I wanted to. I played the game and I enjoyed the game and I got a 210 weapon out of it.

Unfortunately, this response is pretty par for the course. "Fine! Go do hard stuff!" Sure! I would absolutely love to. Win or lose, I do feel it's time better spent, and that's just me personally. BUT! Does that mean the 210 step is perfectly fine as is? Or any of it for that matter? No. And I have no issue speaking up about it. Obviously, many will agree and disagree with points made. But are you to tell me that those who have issue with it simply don't deserve to speak up about it because they, by default, "just want things handed to them"? I mean really, is THAT what you're saying?

What I'm saying is, you don't like X content but like Y content. Why are you trying to change X content to become Y content?

You don't like Relic, but you like Nidhogg EX. But you want to change Relic so it becomes more like Nidhogg EX.

Great you have good points about why you don't like 210 step, so there are alternatives to get weapons other than Relic. Alternatives that address the very issues that you have with the Relic quest. And you just said you enjoy those types of content. Go do them.