3.4 Healer Rebalancing Thread

[Llynd]

Well the only buff we could get is dps / mitigation one. Since we Come from a dps class, we have less healing skills in term of number and by that, the only way to align sch with other healers would have to buff these heals a lot so we can match the other two in healing,but sch will still have this superior dps because of that ACN base. To me, the only way to accord scholar role in a group without causing any prob is to orient him dps. Like 50/50. So we would "only" fit the off healer role and there wo't be any jalousy stuff from whm/ast anymore.

[Ragology]

Would making it so that WHM regen and AST Heal over time spells ignored cleric stance be enough to balance out the two of them with Scholars fairy? I've been told that WHM and AST dps is actuallly pretty good so they dont need much help there.

[Pomelo]

AST is already radically different from the other healers despite the sects slotting them into similar roles.
AST's 'differences' are not only the card system but also the way in which cooldowns for AST do MULTIPLE things. SCH and WHM CD's tend to do one thing and one thing only.

AST cooldowns: although it has less than the other healers do various things, meaning you have to be strategic and think what you want to use each for.

Lightspeed: Reduce MP cost AND Instant Cast
CO: Stun AND Extend buffs.
Synastry: Divine Seal effect AND the shared heal thing

And so on...so what I think I'd like is more stuff that does two or more things, why can't the AST 'fairy' be a temporary buff cd rather than a perma pet.

I wouldn't mind a fusion between Cure 3 and Indominability.... for example.

[Llynd]

Yeah ast needs an Emergency aoe heal cd.
But a pseudo fairy ?...and nah it would useless to make ast/whm's regen ignoring CS, because sch should have way more facility to dps.

[M0xie]

Yeah ast needs an Emergency aoe heal cd.

I think Lightspeed is a good trade-off for Assize/Indom, even with the GCD.

Maybe improving the AST card system? It is their icon afterall.

The cards system is my favorite part of AST. I think that reducing the CD on Spread was the best thing ever - it compensates for the 30 seconds CD on Draw. I really don't find myself trying/wanting to Draw when it's not up like I did before when Spread would still be on cooldown.

I have/do play all three healers a lot, what I really would like is more DPS options for WHM and AST. On SCH, between all the dots and Broil, controlling the fairy (please learn to do this if you don't!), CDs and heals, there's always something to do. On AST, the cards do give me some extra "stuff" to do but I still spend way too much time with Gravity or Malefic spam, and WHM is always either just Holy or Stone spam.

Healing-wise, I don't ever think any of the 3 is better because I rely on the strengths of each to do the job whichever one I use. Since I'm comfortable healing with any of them, and I enjoy how they all heal/mitigate differently, it's filling the time with DPS that I personally want enhanced but I could be the only one here.

[Rawrz]

Improvement to Time Dilation and Celestial Opposition in NOCTURNAL only, is the sole buff I'd give AST.

WHM should get a trait amended to Cleric Stance to finally give them some base accuracy to stack with, while having to gear towards the main healer slot (this allows for more piety melds over accuracy.) Why should WHM get this buff and not AST? None of a WHM's tool kit can 100% not miss. They also originated the skill, so something extra should be expected for them.

In general, the healers are balanced, as healers. As DPS, I feel AST is weaker during AOE, but on Single target, they hit fine. They could give Nocturnal Celestial Opposition something for this, but its certainly not killing off AST worth, since a Balance/Arrow/Spire/Ewer on a AOE DPS is their own AOE contribution.

[BloodPact]

...So we would "only" fit the off healer role and there wo't be any jalousy stuff from whm/ast anymore.

This is exactly what is happening on the endgame scene right now. The problem is you can turn on Cleric Stance and still get non-nerfed heals out AT THE SAME TIME you DPS because the fairy isn't tied to your character's GCD. And the fact that Scholar's DPS is mostly coming from DoTs makes it even more skewed as you can switch back to healing if needed and not lose the damage that AST or WHM would if they had to.

I love Scholar. I find it SUPER fun, my third favorite job in this game after AST and SMN; but honestly Square Enix made a big mistake having a pet job as a healer.

[Llynd]

This is exactly what is happening on the endgame scene right now. The problem is you can turn on Cleric Stance and still get non-nerfed heals out AT THE SAME TIME you DPS because the fairy isn't tied to your character's GCD. And the fact that Scholar's DPS is mostly coming from DoTs makes it even more skewed as you can switch back to healing if needed and not lose the damage that AST or WHM would if they had to.

I love Scholar. I find it SUPER fun, my third favorite job in this game after AST and SMN; but honestly Square Enix made a big mistake having a pet job as a healer.

Yeah i know it was super risky but now we gotta do with it :/

[Valknut]

AST -Spear needs to be reworked hard core, hell just make spear only good for AST, like it makes your next card triple( Aoe, extended, enhanced) enhanced or something. Put it on a 300 second CD an poof AST now has a perfect utility option, an all its cards are now nice to see in "Draw" or for the love of god just make spear give expanded Royal.

WHM - Needs some damn utility, any at all for god sakes. Make stone skin 2 a 300 second instacast CD an more powerful like 20% or something.

SCH - Needs a better regen, one on or off their pet. Remove most of the dmg it does from dots and move it to broil like WHM/AST. You don't get to go full on DPS and go back to healing without ruining your DPS, that is some BS.

[myahele]

At the very least make Stoneskin 2 available in combat. With its high MP cost, it won't be spammable and needs to be used strategically.