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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    A player shouldn’t be penalized because they don’t play their character the way you want them to. It is just a game after all….
    This excuse only stretches so far because we can take it to its logical extremes and the premise wouldn't change. For instance, should people be allowed to kick someone after they queued into a lvl 50 trial as a Marauder or Lancer? It is just a game after all.

    See? At some point, you have to consider this "game" includes three or seven other people whose time will be effected. Therefore, you lose the argument of "I can do whatever I want." If that's what they prefer, then they should play a single player game like Skyrim or Fallout 4 where they can, indeed, do whatever they fancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    This excuse only stretches so far because we can take it to its logical extremes and the precise wouldn't change. For instance, should people be allowed to kick someone after they queued into a lvl 50 trial as a Marauder or Lancer? It is just a game after all.

    See? At some point, you have to consider this "game" includes three or seven other people whose time will be effected. Therefore, you lose the argument of "I can do whatever I want." If that's what they prefer, then they should play a single player game like Skyrim or Fallout 4 where they can, indeed, do whatever they fancy.
    this, basically.

    When you say "don't tell me how to play", you are forgetting (or ignoring) that this is a co-operative team game, and that playstyles are often mutually exclusive (i.e. a party that is not all on the same page is likely to be unable to progress). When you insist on a specific playstyle that is different to that of the rest of your party, you are therefore, in effect, telling the rest of the group "how to play".

    The tank that single-pulls small groups when they are overgeared and the healer and DPS are both capable and desirous of larger pulls, the healer that lets their fairy do all the work while they watch Youtube when the tank & DPS want to run fast, the DPS that refuses to AoE when the tank pulls 10+ mobs and the healer is fine with keeping them up, but only until their cooldowns run out. All of these hypothetical people are effectively saying "I don't want to go fast, so you all shouldn't".

    Not that this only applies to going faster of course - the converse is also possible - consider the tank that pulls an entire room when the healer doesn't feel capable of keeping them up and the DPS don't know their rotations very well, or the DPS or healer that pulls extra mobs because they aren't happy with a pace that the rest of the group is fine with.

    In both cases, one person is belligerently playing within their preferred style in a selfish effort to force the group to also conform to that style. If your playstyle is different from that of the majority of the group, then you should either adjust to match theirs, or leave.

    When you say "don't tell me how to play", the implied follow-up is "instead let me tell you how to play".
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    There will always be extremes.... I'm just of the mind set that if you want to play at maximum output run things with your friends.... expecting the FF14 community to carter to your play-style is unrealistic through DF.
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