Summoner revamp

[TheMax1087]

Honest it's my opinion that dreadwyrm trance is the closest you can get to classic ff summoning(in which summons are summoned for one big attack then go away) and I hope they continue along that route.

[seekified]

Honest it's my opinion that dreadwyrm trance is the closest you can get to classic ff summoning(in which summons are summoned for one big attack then go away) and I hope they continue along that route.

Indeed, I hope they expand on this and give us a couple more avatars to rotate through and use in various situations. It is visually impressive and arguably fun to use, whereas DoTs and Ruin spams are not (even if it is satisfying to watch things melt while you twiddle your thumbs, so to speak).

In contrast, I think the SCH stuff makes a lot of sense - the lore says that a single scholar could support entire parties of marauders, and their pets make more sense. But then there's not really a clear FF precedent for scholars, lorewise. SMN by comparison feels very gimicky and I think the point that the last pet ability was at level 40 says quite a bit with regards to how SE views the job.

[Leigaon]

Honest it's my opinion that dreadwyrm trance is the closest you can get to classic ff summoning(in which summons are summoned for one big attack then go away) and I hope they continue along that route.

It was nice to get that, I wouldn't mind if that was the norm and maybe a little something special while we're in that form to remind us of what trance we're in. I think you might be on a good route, if we're able to get a bit of the summons power through us, we would feel some connection to the summons. Ifrit, and let us finish off with Inferno. If you did that and added a bit of something for each stance, a few small adjustments on the egi's end..it could be something. I wouldn't mind being able to harness just a bit of Titan.

Some of the ideas im seeing are just terrible and im kinda glad SE did not take some of these suggestions lol. Most of the ideas im seeing i'm just face palming so hard it hurts.

At least he suggested something though, all the ideas start off somewhere. It wasn't a perfect solution but it was something. I'm sure the starting points through S.E. were not wonderful at first and this will keep on coming up since both sides admit there is an issue. If S.E. sees it as a failure and something they didn't want to implement in the first place, and the players see it as something that could be adjusted..I think there is a common ground to work with. I'd love it if they took some time off towards 4.0 and re-did scholar and summoner. Both are wonderful ideas, and they did do their best to fit this into the lore.

Now that the lore is there, they can work around it. They probably should have held off a bit longer but if demand was high, they gave the baby their bottle and it didn't work out so well..

I do see how some aren't happy so much power comes from the caster, I think it is a little over the top but it sure beats 11 when if my pet dies, I was screwed..lol.

There's a solution and a balance, we just have to hope S.E. finds it, they did take us wanting this job into consideration and I love them for it. Now maybe it's time to let them know we are happy to let them get it right if need be.