I guess it's time

[Yurimi]

I wonder if it's because Yoshidas so called "wrong decisions" (lol) didn't almost single handedly sink the entire company and turned the entire franchise into a punchline for years.

Oh wait, that was Tanakas 1.0. ^^ Keep living in denial though.

Let's be fair here, YoshiP took 2 years and then some to build on the foundations Tanaka created for this game and given a huge budget to "fix" things. Tanaka was denied extra time and budget because SE demanded he put it out before the release of WoW's Cataclysm expansion using funds milked from FFXI that was already being stretched to fund other titles in development (such as recouping the losses the failing XIII created) in order to draw in players from that game at the end of patch cycle when most are looking for something else to do. Not saying YoshiP is doing bad but lets not pretend Tanaka was given even half the favorable situations that YoshiP was before you go burying him for his choices.

[Razard]

As I have said, financial success doesn't mean the game is anyhow good, even if millions play it. Just like game that "almost single handedly sink the entire company" can be actually a masterpiece.

So, keep living in denial you too.

Ah the "Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good" defense. And thanks for proving my point. Denial, not just a river in Egypt.

Let's be fair here, YoshiP took 2 years and then some to build on the foundations Tanaka created for this game and given a huge budget to "fix" things. Tanaka was denied extra time and budget because SE demanded he put it out before the release of WoW's Cataclysm expansion using funds milked from FFXI that was already being stretched to fund other titles in development (such as recouping the losses the failing XIII created) in order to draw in players from that game at the end of patch cycle when most are looking for something else to do. Not saying YoshiP is doing bad but lets not pretend Tanaka was given even half the favorable situations that YoshiP was before you go burying him for his choices.

So the fatigue system wasn't his fault? The market wards or Anima? The rest where technical issues that could be fixed. But these weren't and you cannot convince me that Tanaka was this great misuderstood genius that some people make him out to be.

[Yurimi]

Ah the "Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good" defense. And thanks for proving my point. Denial, not just a river in Egypt.


So the fatigue system wasn't his fault? The market wards or Anima? The rest where technical issues that could be fixed. But these weren't and you cannot convince me that Tanaka was this great misuderstood genius that some people make him out to be.

Every developer has their issues. 1.0 had some yes, it was not a perfect game, feedback was not (and because of the extremely limited time frame probably could not) be incorporated at all. 2.0 had and still has many issues. Housing? What a nightmare that entire debacle is. How about the promise that player housing would be completely separate and far more affordable than FC housing? Mail being restricted to flist only? Can't Flist your alts? Tell's not being able to be sent in dungeons (though they can be its just been disabled for anyone but GM's)? Every game, every producer has faults. People need to stop acting like Tanaka was the one solely at fault for everything. Almost every serious complaint about XIV's 1.0 was that it was rushed and unfinished or issues with server stability which was because of SE's lack of funding and refusal to push back the date for 1.0's release so it could beat cataclysm to launch. Yes some of the systems were probably not the best ideas (looking at you 1.0 MP system) but perhaps if given more than a month to actually implement the vast majority of feedback we left during the 1.0 alpha/beta maybe the game would have been better. However this is not a thread to discuss the differences or what was better or worse in 1.0 but to discuss the issues people are having with the current game. I just get tired of seeing people vilify Tanaka despite all the great work he put into this game and his previous works.