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    TankHunter678's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    It saddens me that there are so many so-called 'Paladins' here who are more interested in causing bloodshed than actually trying to protect their party members, all because their 'damage numbers' aren't as high as someone else.

    Really, you want to do damage? Be a DPS. If you're a tank, then you should be tanking. If you're a PLD, your gimmick is high damage mitigation/debuffs and abilities that specialize at single targets. It's as simple as that.
    Even paladins know that the best way to protect an ally is not just to shield them from blows, but to also kill the bastard trying to kill them in the first place. If you are only good at blocking the guy trying to kill your ally then you wont be able to protect your other allies from the rest of the enemy group. If you cannot protect your allies... then you are pretty bad as a tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
    Even paladins know that the best way to protect an ally is not just to shield them from blows, but to also kill the bastard trying to kill them in the first place. If you are only good at blocking the guy trying to kill your ally then you wont be able to protect your other allies from the rest of the enemy group. If you cannot protect your allies... then you are pretty bad as a tank.
    Ah, 'good offense is the best defense' and all that? Sorry, I've never bought that as far as tanking goes - those who want tanks to deal high damage as well to me are usually just either a), fairweather tanks who only tank grudgingly to avoid long queues on Duty Finder/to get the 'adventurer in need' bonus for roulettes but really want to DPS.... or b), are extremely lazy DPSes who can't be bothered actually doing their own jobs and want others in the party to do it for them to allow them to slack off. It's just as bad as the idiots who demand healers DPS as well even while they're desperately trying to keep their party alive.

    But whatever, I've said my opinion, take from it what you will.
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    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Ah, 'good offense is the best defense' and all that? Sorry, I've never bought that as far as tanking goes - those who want tanks to deal high damage as well to me are usually just either a), fairweather tanks who only tank grudgingly to avoid long queues on Duty Finder/to get the 'adventurer in need' bonus for roulettes but really want to DPS.... or b), are extremely lazy DPSes who can't be bothered actually doing their own jobs and want others in the party to do it for them to allow them to slack off. It's just as bad as the idiots who demand healers DPS as well even while they're desperately trying to keep their party alive.

    But whatever, I've said my opinion, take from it what you will.
    Wow. Must be interesting playing a completely different game than the rest of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
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    The best defense is the balanced combination of a good offense and a good defense. From the sound of things though, you just want a glorified damage sponge that sits there and lets others handle everything. Instead of something that can hold all aggro and dish out nearly as much as they take like the other tanks.

    When a tank asks for more damage output, in the form of improving their AoE capability, its to improve their ability to grab and hold mobs. So that the DPS or Healer wont be able to rip mobs off of them. So that the DPS and Healer are only at threat from their own stupidity in standing in AoEs.

    Same can be said for the whole "healers should do DPS", dead enemies means the tank takes less damage which means less healing is required. A Healer that helps out with DPS is a healer that is reducing the need for them to Heal in the first place.

    Glorified damage sponges and glorified heal bots are not fun. It is why tanking and healing classes in the majority of MMOs are underplayed.
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