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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenosan View Post
    Either way won't change much, because the Parry mechanic itself is probably never better than even the smallest increase in DPS via Crit/Det,
    As a Dark Knight main, I'm shocked to see you damn the mechanic itself. On average, I have a 15-20% parry chance each raid night, that's 3-4% less physical damage that I'm taking overall and 5-7% chance to counter-attack with a free Low Blow. The power of parrying is underwhelming when you're playing, but when you look back at the math, you'll see it as a very powerful part of any tank's kit.

    Additionally, unless your crit and det upgrades are enough to increase your static's overall damage output by a generous 3-4%, you'll be hard pressed to see either of those stats outweigh the base parry rate in terms of staying alive.
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    Last edited by MiniPrinny; 07-13-2016 at 11:27 PM. Reason: Some numbers were off from my haste due to my irritation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniPrinny View Post
    As a Dark Knight main, I'm shocked to see you damn the mechanic itself. On average, I have a 15-20% parry chance each raid night, that's 15-20% less damage that I'm taking overall and 5-7% chance to counter-attack with a free Low Blow. The power of parrying is underwhelming when you're playing, but when you look back at the math, you'll see it as a very powerful part of any tank's kit.
    Nope, even as a dark knight, that 15-20% may exist, but it just means healers are wasting mp 15-20% of the time in overcuring you. It's not helping.

    @ OP, I haven't heard anything official from SE that they're even considering removing parry as a mechanic, but if they did obviously they'd have to rework reprisal as well as raw intuition, so if they went that far they'd definitely do something about them.
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    Last edited by Alistaire; 07-13-2016 at 11:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Nope, even as a dark knight, that 15-20% may exist, but it just means healers are wasting mp 15-20% of the time in overcuring you. It's not helping.
    So you want me to overlook every time I parry a tankbuster or reprisal before a massive magical attack. That's not going to happen. Also, healing doesn't work in a bubble, the math doesn't match the methods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniPrinny View Post
    So you want me to overlook every time I parry a tankbuster or reprisal before a massive magical attack. That's not going to happen. Also, healing doesn't work in a bubble, the math doesn't match the methods.
    Sure, if you just want to keep disagreeing with the tons of threads and research that's been done on this, both on the pure math side and the practical side. The math does match the methods; this has been tested to the point of being beaten to death and you disagreeing doesn't make it so.
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