Quote Originally Posted by _slowpoke_ View Post
If you are in non-savage, non-extreme content, and someone dies at 25% from unavoidable damage, then the stance doesn't matter, because the healer(s) is/are bad. Likewise, if someone dies at 25% from avoidable damage, that player is bad, which again has nothing to do with the fact that Nocturnal is shit and should be avoided whenever possible, i.e. at all time (except PvP, which barely anyone cares about).

I don't understand why people keep defending the mess that is Noct. I really don't.
Players being shit does not refute my point. I'm not "defending" Nocturnal, I'm just stating a use case where it is superior to Diurnal. People get hit by stuff all the time, even supposedly perfect progression raiders.