Solving the Fire Mage Problem

[Alaltus]

Thing about FFXI BLM compared to XIV is that XI BLM felt powerful. You had to hold back your awesome or else you would rip hate from the tank and die. Which also gave you that feeling of vulnerability. Tanks in XIV never lose hate and BLM's spell damage is nothing spectacular. While the place you hold in both games is reversed, in XI your just an adventurer, in XIV your the uber savior of the world.

[Judah_Brandt]

Thing about FFXI BLM compared to XIV is that XI BLM felt powerful. You had to hold back your awesome or else you would rip hate from the tank and die. Which also gave you that feeling of vulnerability. Tanks in XIV never lose hate and BLM's spell damage is nothing spectacular. While the place you hold in both games is reversed, in XI your just an adventurer, in XIV your the uber savior of the world.

Uh. There's a reason Black Mages cross class Quelling strikes. It's because they put out literally the most single target DPS in a lot of instances and can quite easily draw a lot of enmity. Check FFLogs or just about any thread on Black Mage rotations. Your statement is based on feeling and then you depreciate into a completely inaccurate statement. Please fact check.

[Alaltus]

Uh. There's a reason Black Mages cross class Quelling strikes. It's because they put out literally the most single target DPS in a lot of instances and can quite easily draw a lot of enmity. Check FFLogs or just about any thread on Black Mage rotations. Your statement is based on feeling and then you depreciate into a completely inaccurate statement. Please fact check.

Or maybe it is because Blm lack any good cross class skill options. Virus? Eye for an Eye? Physick? Ruin? All completely irrelevent to BLM. I've yet to see a blm ever rip hate, i have yet to ever rip hate. Note that i'm only level 52 so maybe i'll change my mind by 60.

[Judah_Brandt]

Or maybe it is because Blm lack any good cross class skill options. Virus? Eye for an Eye? Physick? Ruin? All completely irrelevent to BLM. I've yet to see a blm ever rip hate, i have yet to ever rip hate. Note that i'm only level 52 so maybe i'll change my mind by 60.

OK, so you're missing both Enochian and Fire IV. So I'm sorry, but your observation of "I've never seen a Black Mage rip hate" is completely irrelevant.

[Alaltus]

OK, so you're missing both Enochian and Fire IV. So I'm sorry, but your observation of "I've never seen a Black Mage rip hate" is completely irrelevant.

No because i have multiple 60's and i have yet to see a blm rip hate in any content i've participated in. Even when i've tanked. It's not something you don't notice.

[Judah_Brandt]

No because i have multiple 60's and i have yet to see a blm rip hate in any content i've participated in. Even when i've tanked. It's not something you don't notice.

Me too. I've seen it happen. You're also dismissing the amount of damage that the Job does. Here is a 177 page thread that may enlighten you.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...A-Guide-to-DPS

[Alaltus]

Me too. I've seen it happen. You're also dismissing the amount of damage that the Job does. Here is a 177 page thread that may enlighten you.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...A-Guide-to-DPS

Go read it again the guide specifically says that quelling strike is only used to help a tank get time to establish hate. That doesn't sound like BLM really has to hold back throughout the fight. In XI BLM could rip hate at any time if they didn't hold back sufficiently. Which is why once you got ancient magic you aimed to kill with it because if you didn't and you didn't get a resist you were dead.