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  1. #41
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    Mattelot's Avatar
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    Mattelot Leviathan
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by royox View Post
    If there's something I learned after 4 years tanking in WoW and 3 years tanking in SWTOR is that those 7 years of "tanking experience" were worth nothing while playing FFXIV. The mechanics are so diferent I had to make myself to forget everything I knew and learn from 0.

    So yeah...your "experience" means nothing if you never cleared an extreme boss. And this coming from a player that's tired of dying at Nidhogg Ex because I still have the "bonus" stigma.
    I disagree. I had years of healing experience in FFXI and WoW. I healed this game as a natural. If there is ever a wipe, it's someone else's fault, not mine. I've also tanked in both games and it has helped me with certain aspects such as being mindful of your surroundings and enmity levels. Sure, they're different games but the concepts are the same.


    I also strongly disagree when someone says "unless you've cleared X in this game..." Those comments need to stop (though they never will).

    To the OP, I've only ever had 1 negative experience when I joined a random duty and the tank (with his anima weapon) made a comment about how I had 1 piece of lower level gear (nothing better drops, literally on that job, 90% of drops are Mnk) and made a sad face, saying "fml". The run went very fast and even though he tanked almost exclusively in Deliverance, no deaths at all. People are just judgmental.
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  2. #42
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    thegreatonemal's Avatar
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    Gridinia
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    Character
    Malcolm Varanidae
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 100
    Again how do you know that they were looking for a carry? oh right you don't the person prob didn't want to deal with any flack if they did make a mistake and died or caused a wipe because for someone who hasn't cleared the response is to kick that person. But if one of the so called farmers causes a wipe its "lol my bad lets try again" and then proceed to wipe more times.
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  3. #43
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    randysquirrel's Avatar
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    Phoenix Silver
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattelot View Post
    If there is ever a wipe, it's someone else's fault, not mine.
    ok........
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  4. #44
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    Ilan's Avatar
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    Again how do you know that they were looking for a carry? oh right you don't the person prob didn't want to deal with any flack if they did make a mistake and died or caused a wipe because for someone who hasn't cleared the response is to kick that person. But if one of the so called farmers causes a wipe its "lol my bad lets try again" and then proceed to wipe more times.
    If a farmer causes several wipes he will be kicked. Mistakes happen, no one is flawless but enough is enough.

    The point is just, that several new players join without saying a word, they lie if the bonus pops up, they didn't even watch a guide or they really just look for a carry. It doesn't count for every "Bonus Player" but for quiet a lot.
    You can see it how you want but you have to accept that other people see it their own way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
    暗闇の力#7805

  5. #45
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    Kimimoto's Avatar
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    Character
    Kimi Shokan
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Deylyn View Post
    abuse the living shit out of him before any combat has taken place
    Exaggerating much? What did they ask you to leave? Are you joining farm parties with no experience of the fight?

    "im just sitting here playing afk simulator raiding idyllshire all day every day thinking how the actual F am i supposed to get that experience with this tramp stamp on my forehead" Start your own group to learn and clear the fight, welcome to progression
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  6. #46
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    Destous's Avatar
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    Character
    Oni On
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60
    We're not allowed 3rd party programs like meters (which everyone already has if they want one) because content is already stretched out to extreme lengths; vital tools that allow players and groups to better learn from their mistakes and improve their gameplay would only increase the amount of players with nothing to do. "DPS meter troll" is a boogeyman argument. Anyone with a prerogative to demean other players with hard numbers is already doing it.
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