Why do we have a "NOOB" Warning in the game?

[Leigaon]

The whole point should be to let people know that communication and understanding are going to be needed for this fight. The problems I see come from seeing this warning is that both sides do not communicate or if they do it's poorly. It's not S.E., it's the people that make things difficult.

It's a collaboration from both sides. As a new person you should have the skills to learn and adapt, not flawlessly but at least be able to adjust. So far with the new content such as dungeons, trials, raids people can quickly explain most of these and those who are new can adapt since a majority of the mechanics have been used before. Also except your flaws and take in criticism. Things like, you're not geared for this is just something you have to accept.

On the other side, the person that isn't new needs to understand that the new guy is going to die just like they did the first time. Except now it's not fun for them. When you're the new person and you screw up and die, it's a different feeling than being someone who knows the dance and has to watch someone else. When giving advice try not to put in things like "Seriously..why can't you do this?" now you got someone who isn't going to listen, and wait for you to mess up to point fingers.

The new people should ask questions, but they don't because they hope they perform well and someone else gets blamed for being new. Sometimes the people who have cleared are horrible at explaining. We had someone in the Final Steps say nothing more than "This is a fail" "wipe" "we're dead" "we aren't going to make it" and we didn't we did horrible because so many were new. Yet the problem with those statements are there is no solution to that problem. "This is a fail" why? "we're dead" why? A new guy got mad and told them to either help explain or quit it. So finally it was explained quickly. We were then able to keep people alive and made it up to killing he adds, just not quick enough. Then we found out we didn't have the DPS to do it quick enough..in other words we needed to go back and gear. We accepted that, and disbanded.

It may be the internet, and that's why people feel so empowered to yell or be rude..but I try to always talk to them as if they're actually within the same room as me. 90% of the people wouldn't act like that lol or if they did they would get taught to not do it again.

[Kallera]

I hate this warning myself. mostly for what it does to people.

[Ilan]

I hate this warning myself. mostly for what it does to people.

I don't know what it does to people. I never saw something negativ just because of it and to be honest if you join a farmparty with bonus its only naturell that they will kick you, because its a farmparty and not a first kill carry party.

[Kallera]

I don't know what it does to people. I never saw something negativ just because of it and to be honest if you join a farmparty with bonus its only naturell that they will kick you, because its a farmparty and not a first kill carry party.

its not just about whether someone is a liar. Not everyone who clear a content will clear it every time. At a certain point people just assume the worst with new players and will do anything to get rid of the bonus, it creates a brain drain as many players that have cleared will not, nor will benefit from, helping newer players clear(unless they happen to be clearsellers).

[MaikoRaines]

Why do they have a noob warning? Maybe because the dev's expect players to be good and help out newbies. I mean we are all newbs at some point.

Raised expectations since lately some people can be such dickheads about first timers. Then again, the majority of the time I play with newbies they can pull off the mechanics better than people who've apparently cleared it and has the gear to back it up.

[FunkyBunch]

When I see a noob warning it usually means be prepared for a harder fight than usual and be prepared to help the new person learn.
I haven't personally seen a noob get roasted on non-raid content for joining.

Raid content is tough, because there aren't lots of opportunities for people who are new to it to even start learning it.
My first experience trying to raid was Seph Ex, and after two attempts with one raid group and another attempt with another raid group and me being kicked (despite doing no worse than the rest of the group mechanics or DPS wise) I quit FFXIV for months. And this was after spending nearly every day for 3 weeks just trying to find a group willing to take me.

[Ilan]

its not just about whether someone is a liar. Not everyone who clear a content will clear it every time. At a certain point people just assume the worst with new players and will do anything to get rid of the bonus, it creates a brain drain as many players that have cleared will not, nor will benefit from, helping newer players clear(unless they happen to be clearsellers).

For what do we have FC's and Friendlists if not for stuff like that? I mean come on it can't be that every Player has to carry every new Player through the Content.

I for my part don't expect the worst from new Players, because they are pretty often better than the so called Veterans of this Game. We had once a new Player who joined our Garuda farm Group to Level 50 times and at first no one was amused, but he did very well so we kept him in the Party for more runs.

[thegreatonemal]

The problem I have with it is that people assuming I don't know how to do the content. The message says the person has not completed it yet, not that the person is completely new and has no idea what they are doing.

[WeekendSoja]

It's all about context, you could be the best player in the world with this warning, if you join a farm party you are setting yourself up for heavy judgement, and most times farm parties will be parsing so if you just fall behind which affects total raid DPS than expect to be removed. Hell, as people have noted, player who have cleared at times are worse than those who have not...but that doesn't stop a parsing player from removing them. Apathy at that level of commitment is pretty non-existent.

[randysquirrel]

The problem I have with it is that people assuming I don't know how to do the content. The message says the person has not completed it yet, not that the person is completely new and has no idea what they are doing.

I have no issue with people being new, but I do with those that lie about it. This weekend we were farming a bit of Nid, after maybe 6 or 7 runs, someone had to leave, so we went back in PF to replace them. Someone joined, and the "someone has yet to clear" message appeared. Obviously we knew who it was, as we'd only swapped in one person, but as courtesy, I asked in the party chat if the new person could reveal themselves, saying this is a farm party, and we will still give you a shot (though if you are holding us back we will have to replace you). THAT person started saying about "who's new, own up".

I then said we actually all knew who it was, and if they had spoken up then no problem, but someone trying to "sneak" into a farm party for a carry leaves a bad taste in my mouth. So we backed out and booted right away, replaced, and carried on farming.