Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[AreeyaJaidee]

When you do "power level" in other MMOs you have a logical limit: you have to do the first or the final bash to the monster (depends of the game), or if your friend is too high, you don't receive a lot of exp. But here, in FFXIV, you receive too much experience points with a Full Party with a character Level 50 killing mobs very fast. Why? It has no sense at all! I like the idea, but it's too much!

They destroyed the game balance allowing people to be 50 in two days. And it's offensive to people who already is 50. What will happen when PS3 players start the game? Everyone will be 50s, and they are going to powerlevel to 50 in 8 hours or less. This is not a good experience to start, I think.

People are going to powerlevel for everything: goodbye low level instances, goodbye low-mid...high level parties. The game will be this: "Powerlevel Party @4/8 Do you need it?".

I loved this game and I'm here since Open Beta. I'm a fan of Yoishi's work, but this is ridiculous. I can't find a good solution for this. An update? People are powerleveling like crazies right now. They can do a rollback, but I don't think they are going to do that.

Ok, now?

Bandwagon mentality. This confirms my previous statements.

Instead of summarizing the same regurgitated arguing points why dont you factually prove the point?

So far the basis of this thread is founded upon "in my opinion..."

Please further your opinion with facts.

Please tell us all: Exactly how, in minute detail, does PLing ruin FFXIV? How does it effect the economy?

Exactly what is "too much exp"? Which global convention or standard do you base your rants validity upon?

I doubt you even know or can validate your accussations with hard facts.

Case proven.

[PrettyPrincess]

Bandwagon mentality. This confirms my previous statements.

Instead of summarizing the same regurgitated arguing points why dont you factually prove the point?

So far the basis of this thread is founded upon "in my opinion..."

Please further your opinion with facts.

Please tell us all: Exactly how, in minute detail, does PLing ruin FFXIV? How does it effect the economy?

Exactly what is "too much exp"? Which global convention or standard do you base your rants validity upon?

I doubt you even know or can validate your accussations with hard facts.

Case proven.

Well said !

[RemVye]

I think these people are suffering from Doom Syndrome..

[Senprum]

Bandwagon mentality. This confirms my previous statements.

Instead of summarizing the same regurgitated arguing points why dont you factually prove the point?

So far the basis of this thread is founded upon "in my opinion..."

Please further your opinion with facts.

Please tell us all: Exactly how, in minute detail, does PLing ruin FFXIV? How does it effect the economy?

Exactly what is "too much exp"? Which global convention or standard do you base your rants validity upon?

I doubt you even know or can validate your accussations with hard facts.

Case proven.

What?

I have found all my LS members doing Powerleveling to be 30-40 with all classes. I have found in the main cities people shouting for Powerleveling Parties instiead of Parties to do things together (like it was pre-1.19).

What's too much exp for me? A way to leveling 3-5 faster than WoW, considering that WoW it's too easy for a lot of people.

And, what's is the point of the economy? I haven't said anything about that. I just said the content pre-50 is pointless. Why instances of level 15 and 25? Why all the sidequests? Why reforming levequest system? Why are you going to level up "normally" if you can powerlevel?

New players can't do parties with other people of their level because everyone prefer powerleveling. So new players need high-level friends to level up well in the game right now.

Do you really think it's ok?

[RemVye]

What?

I have found all my LS members doing Powerleveling to be 30-40 with all classes. I have found in the main cities people shouting for Powerleveling Parties instiead of Parties to do things together (like it was pre-1.19).

What's too much exp for me? A way to leveling 3-5 faster than WoW, considering that WoW it's too easy for a lot of people.

And, what's is the point of the economy? I haven't said anything about that. I just said the content pre-50 is pointless. Why instances of level 15 and 25? Why all the sidequests? Why reforming levequest system? Why are you going to level up "normally" if you can powerlevel?

New players can't do parties with other people of their level because everyone prefer powerleveling. So new players need high-level friends to level up well in the game right now.

Do you really think it's ok?

Yes it's ok. I hope someone will PL me on the classes I don't really want to level but "need" there abilities. Accept it or leave.

[AreeyaJaidee]

I think these people are suffering from Doom Syndrome..

Like I said. Various threads popping up with nay sayers bashing 1.19.

The patch is very well designed. I login on Lindblum and ppl are having fun.

Server population has increased.
Enemies and strangers are helping each other clear strongholds.
Players are experiencing FFXIV for the first time and shouting they love it.
Cities other than Ul'Dah are well populated.
...the list goes on.

Some say FFXIV is a bit harder now. Some disagree. However, the larger majority are too busy experiencing this great patch to get on these LOLficial forums and listen to a paid group of angry cultists defame the game.

[RemVye]

Like I said. Various threads popping up with nay sayers bashing 1.19.

The patch is very well designed. I login on Lindblum and ppl are having fun.

Server population has increased.
Enemies and strangers are helping each other clear strongholds.
Players are experiencing FFXIV for the first time and shouting they love it.
Cities other than Ul'Dah are well populated.
...the list goes on.

Some say FFXIV is a bit harder now. Some disagree. However, the larger majority are too busy experiencing this great patch to get on these LOLficial forums and listen to a paid group of angry cultists defame the game.

Want to trade power leveling with me see you on Lindblum! (After work !_! )

[Travesty]

Bandwagon mentality. This confirms my previous statements.

Instead of summarizing the same regurgitated arguing points why dont you factually prove the point?

So far the basis of this thread is founded upon "in my opinion..."

Please further your opinion with facts.

Please tell us all: Exactly how, in minute detail, does PLing ruin FFXIV? How does it effect the economy?

Exactly what is "too much exp"? Which global convention or standard do you base your rants validity upon?

I doubt you even know or can validate your accussations with hard facts.

Case proven.

Here's one small example of how it can destroy the game: crafting classes can't advance anywhere close to as fast. The entire crafting comunity will lag HUGELY behind the combat classes if the current setup remains, which will contribute significantly to destroying the economy. For one, lower level gear will become almost completely useless

If you can reach the cap in 8 hours, what is even the point of having a vast open world if you can just be powerleveled through the game at warp speed in basically one spot? You're never going to explore any area with lower level content.

What is the point of even having any sub-level-50 gear of any significance in the game?

What is the point of having NM's in the game below level 50?

What is the point in having level 25 raids?

The entire point of view that people who think this is OK are coming from is absurd, and does not fit this game whatsoever. Reaching the cap as quickly as people now can WILL hurt it, no debate. It's just the logical conclusion and arguing that it's ok is ridiculous.

And the argument that now there are just "different options" for people that don't want to grind is extremely shortsighted. If this quick option exists, too many people will use it for the alternative to survive in any meaningful capacity. If the option for easy exists, very few people choose hard, for a multitude of reasons, even if they were people who would have preferred a less-easy route.

[AreeyaJaidee]

What?

I have found all my LS members doing Powerleveling to be 30-40 with all classes. I have found in the main cities people shouting for Powerleveling Parties instiead of Parties to do things together (like it was pre-1.19).

What's too much exp for me? A way to leveling 3-5 faster than WoW, considering that WoW it's too easy for a lot of people.

And, what's is the point of the economy? I haven't said anything about that. I just said the content pre-50 is pointless. Why instances of level 15 and 25? Why all the sidequests? Why reforming levequest system? Why are you going to level up "normally" if you can powerlevel?

New players can't do parties with other people of their level because everyone prefer powerleveling. So new players need high-level friends to level up well in the game right now.

Do you really think it's ok?

Yes I think freedom of choice is ok. If players want to lvl slow they will. If they want to quest at lvl 15 or 25 then let them.

The producer, Yoshi, has stated he thinks the same.

So we need an Emergency Patch because less than a few ppl want to takE away other players freedoms?

Dont hold your breathe: The English en masse didnt want settlers of a new world to unify under their own government. Guess what? America's still here.

P.S. You still failed to factually prove anything.

[AreeyaJaidee]

Here's one small example of how it can destroy the game: crafting classes can't advance anywhere close to as fast. The entire crafting comunity will lag HUGELY behind the combat classes if the current setup remains, which will contribute significantly to destroying the economy. For one, lower level gear will become almost completely useless

If you can reach the cap in 8 hours, what is even the point of having a vast open world if you can just be powerleveled through the game at warp speed in basically one spot? You're never going to explore any area with lower level content.

What is the point of even having any sub-level-50 gear of any significance in the game?

What is the point of having NM's in the game below level 50?

What is the point in having level 25 raids?

The entire point of view that people who think this is OK are coming from is absurd, and does not fit this game whatsoever. Reaching the cap as quickly as people now can WILL hurt it, no debate. It's just the logical conclusion and arguing that it's ok is ridiculous.

And the argument that now there are just "different options" for people that don't want to grind is extremely shortsighted. If this quick option exists, too many people will use it for the alternative to survive in any meaningful capacity. If the option for easy exists, very few people choose hard, for a multitude of reasons, even if they were people who would have preferred a less-easy route.

This is all speculation, not proof. Still only opinionated ranting.

Yoshi's design supports freedom of choice. Check his letters he states as such.