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    Quote Originally Posted by Senprum View Post
    When you do "power level" in other MMOs you have a logical limit: you have to do the first or the final bash to the monster (depends of the game), or if your friend is too high, you don't receive a lot of exp. But here, in FFXIV, you receive too much experience points with a Full Party with a character Level 50 killing mobs very fast. Why? It has no sense at all! I like the idea, but it's too much!

    They destroyed the game balance allowing people to be 50 in two days. And it's offensive to people who already is 50. What will happen when PS3 players start the game? Everyone will be 50s, and they are going to powerlevel to 50 in 8 hours or less. This is not a good experience to start, I think.

    People are going to powerlevel for everything: goodbye low level instances, goodbye low-mid...high level parties. The game will be this: "Powerlevel Party @4/8 Do you need it?".

    I loved this game and I'm here since Open Beta. I'm a fan of Yoishi's work, but this is ridiculous. I can't find a good solution for this. An update? People are powerleveling like crazies right now. They can do a rollback, but I don't think they are going to do that.

    Ok, now?
    Bandwagon mentality. This confirms my previous statements.

    Instead of summarizing the same regurgitated arguing points why dont you factually prove the point?

    So far the basis of this thread is founded upon "in my opinion..."

    Please further your opinion with facts.

    Please tell us all: Exactly how, in minute detail, does PLing ruin FFXIV? How does it effect the economy?

    Exactly what is "too much exp"? Which global convention or standard do you base your rants validity upon?

    I doubt you even know or can validate your accussations with hard facts.

    Case proven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee View Post
    Bandwagon mentality. This confirms my previous statements.

    Instead of summarizing the same regurgitated arguing points why dont you factually prove the point?

    So far the basis of this thread is founded upon "in my opinion..."

    Please further your opinion with facts.

    Please tell us all: Exactly how, in minute detail, does PLing ruin FFXIV? How does it effect the economy?

    Exactly what is "too much exp"? Which global convention or standard do you base your rants validity upon?

    I doubt you even know or can validate your accussations with hard facts.

    Case proven.
    Well said !
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    Senprum Silvaan
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    Quote Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee View Post
    Bandwagon mentality. This confirms my previous statements.

    Instead of summarizing the same regurgitated arguing points why dont you factually prove the point?

    So far the basis of this thread is founded upon "in my opinion..."

    Please further your opinion with facts.

    Please tell us all: Exactly how, in minute detail, does PLing ruin FFXIV? How does it effect the economy?

    Exactly what is "too much exp"? Which global convention or standard do you base your rants validity upon?

    I doubt you even know or can validate your accussations with hard facts.

    Case proven.
    What?

    I have found all my LS members doing Powerleveling to be 30-40 with all classes. I have found in the main cities people shouting for Powerleveling Parties instiead of Parties to do things together (like it was pre-1.19).

    What's too much exp for me? A way to leveling 3-5 faster than WoW, considering that WoW it's too easy for a lot of people.

    And, what's is the point of the economy? I haven't said anything about that. I just said the content pre-50 is pointless. Why instances of level 15 and 25? Why all the sidequests? Why reforming levequest system? Why are you going to level up "normally" if you can powerlevel?

    New players can't do parties with other people of their level because everyone prefer powerleveling. So new players need high-level friends to level up well in the game right now.

    Do you really think it's ok?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senprum View Post
    What?

    I have found all my LS members doing Powerleveling to be 30-40 with all classes. I have found in the main cities people shouting for Powerleveling Parties instiead of Parties to do things together (like it was pre-1.19).

    What's too much exp for me? A way to leveling 3-5 faster than WoW, considering that WoW it's too easy for a lot of people.

    And, what's is the point of the economy? I haven't said anything about that. I just said the content pre-50 is pointless. Why instances of level 15 and 25? Why all the sidequests? Why reforming levequest system? Why are you going to level up "normally" if you can powerlevel?

    New players can't do parties with other people of their level because everyone prefer powerleveling. So new players need high-level friends to level up well in the game right now.

    Do you really think it's ok?
    Yes it's ok. I hope someone will PL me on the classes I don't really want to level but "need" there abilities. Accept it or leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee View Post
    Bandwagon mentality. This confirms my previous statements.

    Instead of summarizing the same regurgitated arguing points why dont you factually prove the point?

    So far the basis of this thread is founded upon "in my opinion..."

    Please further your opinion with facts.

    Please tell us all: Exactly how, in minute detail, does PLing ruin FFXIV? How does it effect the economy?

    Exactly what is "too much exp"? Which global convention or standard do you base your rants validity upon?

    I doubt you even know or can validate your accussations with hard facts.

    Case proven.
    Here's one small example of how it can destroy the game: crafting classes can't advance anywhere close to as fast. The entire crafting comunity will lag HUGELY behind the combat classes if the current setup remains, which will contribute significantly to destroying the economy. For one, lower level gear will become almost completely useless

    If you can reach the cap in 8 hours, what is even the point of having a vast open world if you can just be powerleveled through the game at warp speed in basically one spot? You're never going to explore any area with lower level content.

    What is the point of even having any sub-level-50 gear of any significance in the game?

    What is the point of having NM's in the game below level 50?

    What is the point in having level 25 raids?

    The entire point of view that people who think this is OK are coming from is absurd, and does not fit this game whatsoever. Reaching the cap as quickly as people now can WILL hurt it, no debate. It's just the logical conclusion and arguing that it's ok is ridiculous.

    And the argument that now there are just "different options" for people that don't want to grind is extremely shortsighted. If this quick option exists, too many people will use it for the alternative to survive in any meaningful capacity. If the option for easy exists, very few people choose hard, for a multitude of reasons, even if they were people who would have preferred a less-easy route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    Here's one small example of how it can destroy the game: crafting classes can't advance anywhere close to as fast. The entire crafting comunity will lag HUGELY behind the combat classes if the current setup remains, which will contribute significantly to destroying the economy. For one, lower level gear will become almost completely useless
    Thank god people took the time to lvl alot of crafting classes on my server and your worrys would be valid if this were a brand new game, but its not, there are a ton of crafters out there max lvl. Low lvl everything becomes useless eventually. Not everyone will have the luxory of a plvl 100% of the time so its still not completely useless. Hopefully this brings down prices of low lvl gear as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindx3 View Post
    Thank god people took the time to lvl alot of crafting classes on my server and your worrys would be valid if this were a brand new game, but its not, there are a ton of crafters out there max lvl. Low lvl everything becomes useless eventually. Not everyone will have the luxory of a plvl 100% of the time so its still not completely useless. Hopefully this brings down prices of low lvl gear as well.
    So you're planning on the game population to stay the same then? No big influx of players at ps3 release, or before then, which is ultimately the sole reason SE is even investing time in making changes to the game? No new servers? Because if the population increases, your points aren't valid.

    I'm sure SE is happy with that prediction.
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