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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    We all take some time to learn, sadly this is something some players do not understand. I was doing a mentor roulette few days ago and the tank kept chain pull, rushing as fast as possible. Both the tank and me were mentors. The newcomers wanted to explore the whole dungeon, but tank refused, the newcomers wanted to learn, so I explained stuff about the dungeons, I gave them tips about their class and even explained each boss and how to beat them. Tank was not having any of that, he kept rushing and insulting the newcomers for holding the group back.

    Sadly before I could start a Vote-Kick, one of the newcomers could not handle it anymore and left. I regret not kicking him out sooner.
    I wish there was more Mentors like you in this. I think some people become Mentors just for DR. I really have had some bad experiences with mentors and I mean they really shouldn't be called a mentor to begin with. Wish more people was as kind as you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcanary View Post
    I wish there was more Mentors like you in this. I think some people become Mentors just for DR. I really have had some bad experiences with mentors and I mean they really shouldn't be called a mentor to begin with. Wish more people was as kind as you.
    That is very kind of you. Alot of those type of mentors do not give a damn about passing on the torch of knowledge, newcomers are the lifeblood of a mmorpg, we need to nurture and make them part of the FFXIV family. Alot of newcomers are afraid of asking (heard this from several newcomers), because they think they might get kicked or get called for words like idiot, noob etc. In general crown or no crown, I think players should help and teach newcomers or those with less experience in certain fields and if you do have a crown, then as a mentor you should do this, its part of the mentor package.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    That is very kind of you. Alot of those type of mentors do not give a damn about passing on the torch of knowledge, newcomers are the lifeblood of a mmorpg, we need to nurture and make them part of the FFXIV family. Alot of newcomers are afraid of asking (heard this from several newcomers), because they think they might get kicked or get called for words like idiot, noob etc. In general crown or no crown, I think players should help and teach newcomers or those with less experience in certain fields and if you do have a crown, then as a mentor you should do this, its part of the mentor package.
    I fully agree I really want to be mentor cause I like to help people. But I want to master every job before I do that. Or at lest WHM, SHC, PLD and also a DPS job. I tried going into a low level dungeon with my WHM and even in a low level dungeon everything felt so fast pasted I had keep saying sorry to people when they died. I use to be a level 60 WHM in FF11. Yet being a WHM in this game fills very different everything is lot faster. Scared me me to bits. I haven't gone back in as a WHM because of this. Don't feel ready yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcanary View Post
    I fully agree I really want to be mentor cause I like to help people. But I want to master every job before I do that. Or at lest WHM, SHC, PLD and also a DPS job. I tried going into a low level dungeon with my WHM and even in a low level dungeon everything felt so fast pasted I had keep saying sorry to people when they died. I use to be a level 60 WHM in FF11. Yet being a WHM in this game fills very different everything is lot faster. Scared me me to bits. I haven't gone back in as a WHM because of this. Don't feel ready yet.
    My advice would be to read up and research the WHM and try it again. Players will die and you will screw up, but because of these failures, you will learn and improve. WHM is pretty straightfoward when it comes to skills. Lodestone says your level 30, so I am going to assume this is correct.

    1. Use Cure I and when it procs the free Cure II spell, use that spell.
    2. If a player is has very little HP, use Cure II, but remember Cure II cost alot of mana so only use it when needed.
    3. Use Medica when you need to AoE heal.

    At level 35, you learn Regen which is a heal over time spell. I always keep a regen on the tank or player that is getting focused on, just remember to cast Regen after the tank has pulled the mobs, if you do it before the tank attacks the mobs, they will run straight for you. At level 40 you will learn Divine Seal, which is my favourite skill as a WHM. Using Divine Seal will increase healing spells by 30%. At this level you can start practicing doing DPS as a healer, since Divine Seal + Regen (and later Medica 2) will keep the parties HP up for some time, giving you enough time to deal some damage.

    My advice, play the WHM, start doing one dungeon tomorrow and if you fail, go back. You will learn and it will become second nature for you. The fear of failing is very normal, this is when you should go back and try again, again, again. I wish you good luck and do not worry, failure is part of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    My advice would be to read up and research the WHM and try it again. Players will die and you will screw up, but because of these failures, you will learn and improve. WHM is pretty straightfoward when it comes to skills. Lodestone says your level 30, so I am going to assume this is correct.

    1. Use Cure I and when it procs the free Cure II spell, use that spell.
    2. If a player is has very little HP, use Cure II, but remember Cure II cost alot of mana so only use it when needed.
    3. Use Medica when you need to AoE heal.

    At level 35, you learn Regen which is a heal over time spell. I always keep a regen on the tank or player that is getting focused on, just remember to cast Regen after the tank has pulled the mobs, if you do it before the tank attacks the mobs, they will run straight for you. At level 40 you will learn Divine Seal, which is my favourite skill as a WHM. Using Divine Seal will increase healing spells by 30%. At this level you can start practicing doing DPS as a healer, since Divine Seal + Regen (and later Medica 2) will keep the parties HP up for some time, giving you enough time to deal some damage.

    My advice, play the WHM, start doing one dungeon tomorrow and if you fail, go back. You will learn and it will become second nature for you. The fear of failing is very normal, this is when you should go back and try again, again, again. I wish you good luck and do not worry, failure is part of the game.
    Thank you for the advice will try what you said when I get home.
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    A player that doesn't wait for protect is the same as getting an player using equipment several levels below the dungeon because it takes too long to walk to the marketboard. The healer is offering to boost their defense for free and he is saying "no, work harder to heal me". Think of protect as a condom that should be worn as soon as you queue up for your foursome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniforani View Post
    A player that doesn't wait for protect is the same as getting an player using equipment several levels below the dungeon because it takes too long to walk to the marketboard. The healer is offering to boost their defense for free and he is saying "no, work harder to heal me". Think of protect as a condom that should be worn as soon as you queue up for your foursome.
    Or you could just target the tank and Protect him as he runs to the first pack.
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