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    Player
    Selsix's Avatar
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    Old Sharlayan
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    Tristan Chevrefeuille
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    Jenova
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Just an FYI, letting your tank die because he didn't wait for you to cast Stoneskin is behavior you can be punished for. You are in the wrong here if you do this.
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    AlphaSonic's Avatar
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    Shaartis Laggal
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    Louisoix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    All this drama because you can't swiftcast protect. Seriously?
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    All this drama because you can't swiftcast protect. Seriously?
    I swiftcast stoneskin, can't do both at the spawn point. What amazes me is that there are people here who defend the tank running off without buffs. Why is that and why is it so important for the tank to leave so fast, it's only a matter of a few seconds. These are the same types who don't wait for everyone before puling a boss in duties like Void and so on.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 06-26-2016 at 12:16 AM.

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    seraseth's Avatar
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    Velikayl Minx
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Why is that and why is it so important for the tank to leave so fast, it's only a matter of a few seconds.
    I know right? The very first thing that's going to happen in every single duty when the wall comes down is healer casting protect. Everyone should be expecting it and wait the few seconds for it. No one needs to bolt the very second the wall drops, 10 seconds isn't going to hurt anyone. Say hi.
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    Mendalas's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Mendalas Dragoonai
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by seraseth View Post
    I know right? The very first thing that's going to happen in every single duty when the wall comes down is healer casting protect. Everyone should be expecting it and wait the few seconds for it. No one needs to bolt the very second the wall drops, 10 seconds isn't going to hurt anyone. Say hi.
    Sure that is the polite thing to do, but having expectations of random people on a video game can become very frustrating. To take it one step further and let the tank die due to pettiness makes you the bad guy though. If the tank is rude and runs off just buff him later in combat or don't bother. Not like you have to spam heals in this game, especially in low level dungeons. The point here is that letting something as small is this get to you is quite ridiculous.
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    Cakekizyy's Avatar
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    Cakellene St
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    Gungnir
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I swiftcast stoneskin, can't do both at the spawn point. What amazes me is that there are people here who defend the tank running off without buffs. Why is that and why is it so important for the tank to leave so fast, it's only a matter of a few seconds. These are the same types who don't wait for everyone before puling a boss in duties like Void and so on.
    If the tank doesn't feel need for buff, than don't worry about it.
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cakekizyy View Post
    If the tank doesn't feel need for buff, than don't worry about it.
    Oh I'm not losing any sleep over it but it doesn't excuse the behavior or the reason for running off. If that's fine with you good, but normally, people do buff before a fight.
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    Alaltus's Avatar
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    Location
    Gridania
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    Character
    Mementus Veventus
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    In my experience the best place for learning is in a consistent group of players e.g linkshell/free company where players get to know each other and have a some social currency between one another. I'm not sure if my free company is a particularly good example in it's current state but since 2.0/2.1 when i left and now i haven't seen or felt much incentive of any kind for members to help one another to catch up.
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    DeeColon's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Dee Colon
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    So many people in this thread complaining about tanks going too fast for their healer buffs and meanwhile as a white mage if a tank is pulling too slow i'll pull more mobs myself, and if they throw a fit and don't want to tank it i'll tank it myself or heal the DPS who is too.


    Protect should just be up from the start of the dungeon, and 99 times out of 100 you can sprint and the tank will not, stoneskin takes less than 3 seconds to cast and as a scholar you shouldn't even have stoneskin cross classed you have adloquium. The only way I can imagine a healer not being able to keep up with their tank is if they're playing with a controller and one hand tied behind their back.
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    Last edited by DeeColon; 06-26-2016 at 02:44 AM.

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    CheshirePuss's Avatar
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    Cheshire Puss
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 80
    The "let them die" for me usually comes in when someone is being deliberately stupid, or flat out ignoring mechanics, only to be ressed and do it yet again. No point in wasting a good amount of my mana to res someone that will just die a moment later. But in any other case, I do what I can to keep up with the team. It's not just the healer that has to keep up with the pace, but the damagers, and even the tank him/herself as well, to meet the demands that the current sized mob requires to be met. If people die to overpulling, that alone should be enough to make the team aware that they may have hit their limit a little too quickly, and would then choose to wisen up by decreasing the rate of the pulls and such. It's not often I ever see a tank suffer a complete mental break down and start harassing either the healer or damagers due to an unfortunate wipe, though it is amusing when it does happen.
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