Lore Incentive Is Ruining Duty Roulette

[PharisHanasaki]

As I healer main, the best advice I can offer you is let them run the content without the buffs and heal as you usually would. If they die, they die I don't have time to be re applying protect just because the tank couldn't wait 8 more seconds.
When you get Swiftcast you can insta cast protect. If they still run, do the same, let them suffer for their own impatience.

[AikoSachi]

The fact that your profile says you're a lvl 60 warrior, says all I need to know.

You're basically attacking anyone who doesn't agree with your viewpoint at this point, you clearly need to go back in game, go into dungeons prepared, and if you can't understand the job you're playing don't play it. That's a novel concept isn't it? It's really, really easy to heal dungeons up until maybe the Aery or the Vault as long as you keep your gear updated, and I'm sorry the only thing I agree with you on is they shouldn't run off before protect, but then again that's once every 30 minutes, dungeon should be wayyyy over by then so that's only once.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

So...After protect, why wouldn't you want them to keep chain pulling? If you sprint you can always get shields up before your next pull anyway. If you cannot keep up with a simple Duty Roulette run, well I'm sorry bud, but I don't think this has anything to do with the tank.

That works both ways. If the tank is in THAT much of a hurry, or is somehow pressed for time, maybe they ought to reconsider even queueing in the first place, or running with a premade party. Sure, there's always the accepted idea of how long things should take, but if you're completely disregarding your healer (or any party member for that matter) and rushing in just to get it done, then the responsibility for wipes or complications falls you.

Keeping up with your party is one thing, maintaining a decent pace for the sake of your team is another.

EDIT: This is a very old, very tired debate, and believe me when I say I've heard it all. So, in short, and to head off the debate at the pass: I agree with the OP's 3 strike method, I disagree with your opinion on it, and while neither of you are completely right or wrong, from a decency standpoint, I have to favor proper preparation over total speed.

[Drkdays]

What's sad is that the op has at least DRK leveled to 60. How would you feel, Damian, if you were moving along making good time and the healer let you die because you weren't obeying their commands. Never mind that you're doing a good job, holding threat, avoiding aoe, and being efficient in your role. The healer said slow down because it's hard to run in a man dress.

[AikoSachi]

Yes, but the thing is, there is absolutely no reason to be struggling in low-level dungeons. I mean the guy complaining hasn't even hit level 50 yet, and he's already complaining about the pacing that tanks are setting and how he can't keep up. and generally in low-level dungeons you aren't doing these across the map pulls like in level 60 dungeons it usually goes one pull at a time, which doesn't have a substantial amount of damage to really drop people if you're doing your job and healing.

[Greydor]

...Sadly before I could start a Vote-Kick...

Honest question. Which choice would you choose when you vote-kick someone for being too fast?

AFK
Offline
Harassment
Cheating

I don't see it falling into any of these categories. I do have a feeling someone's going to quote this and say, "harassment", but harassment is a form of aggression and intimidation - not running too fast.

[Laerune]

What's sad is that the op has at least DRK leveled to 60. How would you feel, Damian, if you were moving along making good time and the healer let you die because you weren't obeying their commands. Never mind that you're doing a good job, holding threat, avoiding aoe, and being efficient in your role. The healer said slow down because it's hard to run in a man dress.

This might have been a very valid argument if both OP healer class and the group were max level and OP was used to healing, but OP himself said he was training to heal with his Astrologian and the tanks that he encountered were in low level dungeons. Its the same as a max level tank entering leveling roulette, getting grouped with newcomers or players who are new to the roles/classes and kept rushing and rushing.

Again, if OP was level 60 who knew how to heal like a expert and the dungeon was something from the Expert Roulette or level 60 Roulette, then I do think OP should increase his game and try and make sure to keep up with the group, but since OP was new to healing and doing low level dungeons, I reckon any tank should atleast discuss the pace with the group and OP and not rush like a mad men.

[Phafi]

Realistically, protect and stoneskin don't even matter in the leveling dungeons because the amount they're going to mitigate is negligible.

[Ayada]

Random groups are toxic by nature. When the chances of dealing with someone again are pretty slim people are unsurprisingly rude to each other.

When encountering these situations I've found it best to either leave, or try and finish as quickly as possible. Engaging in dramatics only makes them problem worse, and generally will only make you even more mad.

That being said, I have always found "Letting other people die because I am god and you should dance for me" is on the top list of toxic behaviors.

[SDaemon]

Honest question. Which choice would you choose when you vote-kick someone for being too fast?

AFK
Offline
Harassment
Cheating

I don't see it falling into any of these categories. I do have a feeling someone's going to quote this and say, "harassment", but harassment is a form of aggression and intimidation - not running too fast.

If it is impacting the rest of the group negatively and the rest of the group choose to kick him it'll pass, regardless of personal validation. If the tank doesn't agree he can argue it to a GM and let the GM decide if it was valid. People kick for viewing the cut-scenes in this community, I don't agree with it but it doesn't stop people from doing it.