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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    And as soon as you get grouped with a raider in a PuG/DF you realize that your character is trash because you do not happen to like organized large group play.

    No thank you.
    This is the main thing that drives me away from playing WoW as a non raider, despite still loving Azeroth and feeling at home there. Just because I don't raid anymore doesn't mean I don't analyze and evaluate my performance. Constantly being crap due to a lack of raw stats sucks the fun out of playing completely.
    I feel you are confused about the current state of FFXIV. Gear currently does provide power differences. Someone with a 240 weapon can do quite a bit more than someone with a 210, 220 or 230 weapon. However, no one is kicking people who have lower ilvl weapons (at least I've seen no stories of such).
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    I feel you are confused about the current state of FFXIV. Gear currently does provide power differences. Someone with a 240 weapon can do quite a bit more than someone with a 210, 220 or 230 weapon. However, no one is kicking people who have lower ilvl weapons (at least I've seen no stories of such).
    You are inexperienced in WoW, so I don't blame you.
    In WoW there is a power difference of 2x between a heroic geared and a mythic geared raider alone.
    That difference easily climbs up to 4x if you look at a non raider because not only does he have lower item level, he also is denied proper trinkets and set bonuses.

    Yes raiders should have a power advantage. After all they do beat the hardest content and put in a lot of effort.
    I feel that the difference FF provides is more than enough. There is no need to go to ridiculous levels like in WoW.

    BTW: as a mythic raider, all content they added was immediately worthless to me in terms of item level.
    That too is an effect you get from having raids net A LOT more character power than anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    I feel you are confused about the current state of FFXIV. Gear currently does provide power differences. Someone with a 240 weapon can do quite a bit more than someone with a 210, 220 or 230 weapon. However, no one is kicking people who have lower ilvl weapons (at least I've seen no stories of such).
    Raid groups are, but content done through party finder and duty finder is usually synced to a minimum ilvl. Having higher ilvl gear does actually help, but you're still synced down to the upper most bounds of that level range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerii View Post
    Raid groups are, but content done through party finder and duty finder is usually synced to a minimum ilvl. Having higher ilvl gear does actually help, but you're still synced down to the upper most bounds of that level range.
    You're only synced for old content, not things like Expert Roulette.

    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    You are inexperienced in WoW, so I don't blame you.
    In WoW there is a power difference of 2x between a heroic geared and a mythic geared raider alone.
    That difference easily climbs up to 4x if you look at a non raider because not only does he have lower item level, he also is denied proper trinkets and set bonuses.

    Yes raiders should have a power advantage. After all they do beat the hardest content and put in a lot of effort.
    I feel that the difference FF provides is more than enough. There is no need to go to ridiculous levels like in WoW.
    No I get that, and I said one can add set bonuses without making you do 2x more damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    You're only synced for old content, not things like Expert Roulette.
    I don't want to make assumptions, but I imagine that everyone who isn't sporting full raid gear or upgraded currency gear would be within the acceptable ilv range for the dungeons when they're current. Looking at duty finder, what they end up syncing almost looks random, but maybe I'm just forgetting something. In either case, I think it is still fair to say that you don't get kicked out of dungeons over gear disparity in duty finder.
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