PSA

[MeiUshu]

this whole topic started with nice words and people are ..too imature to discuss stuff like these with the level of intelligence and decorum it requires.. I am just baffled

[Ulathskullsplitter]

this whole topic started with nice words and people are ..too imature to discuss stuff like these with the level of intelligence and decorum it requires.. I am just baffled

It's doesn't help that this thread started with a lie. As has been pointed out you can not see your opponents chat in pvp. The op was either trolling or wanted to start a discussion here but got caught in a lie. Making up false stories to push an agenda isn't the way to go about it.

[MeiUshu]

It's doesn't help that this thread started with a lie. As has been pointed out you can not see your opponents chat in pvp. The op was either trolling or wanted to start a discussion here but got caught in a lie. Making up false stories to push an agenda isn't the way to go about it.

OP post is not what prompted my reaction at all. My reaction was prompted by a few comments thereafter that left me totally baffled..all I can do is try to take those comments as coming from young people, because if they come from adults with family...I am scared for the future of this world, be it virtual or, even more preoccupying the real world. The message carried by OP is very sensible, maybe the mean used is not right but that doesnt invalidate all what he said.

[Kaurie]

It's doesn't help that this thread started with a lie. As has been pointed out you can not see your opponents chat in pvp. The op was either trolling or wanted to start a discussion here but got caught in a lie. Making up false stories to push an agenda isn't the way to go about it.

ON top of that, the post is fairly hypocritical which goes on to talk about how one should be sensitive to the possibility of mental health issues of other players, but then doesn't acknowledge that the other player (which I guess is made up) could also have a mental health issue which results in them speaking that way.

[Alistaire]

It's doesn't help that this thread started with a lie. As has been pointed out you can not see your opponents chat in pvp. The op was either trolling or wanted to start a discussion here but got caught in a lie. Making up false stories to push an agenda isn't the way to go about it.

No, you can, just not without cheats. That's the funniest part here, OP incriminating himself in a very obvious way on SE's own forum.

[Titor]

No, you can, just not without cheats. That's the funniest part here, OP incriminating himself in a very obvious way on SE's own forum.

Even if third party tools were involved the case still does not make sense. Why would an opponent on the enemy team call out a specific drk on another team if they most likely know about the chat filters? That makes no sense.

[Samcaesar]

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Saying "If you have an incredibly prolific disease just stay away from the thing that's heavily integrated into our society and is how most people socialize and (should) enjoy themselves" is a bad answer that doesn't work.

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Please never interact with anyone with mental health. As someone who both deals with and studies mental health issues for future professional reasons, the ideal of "Steeling oneself to the horrors that trigger your mental issues" doesn't work and you have a misunderstanding of immersion therapy.

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Telling someone to walk off a broken bone is asking for that bone to set in ugly ways much, much later than it should've >_> We shouldn't be in condoning an environment that would allow that sort of behavior.

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There is a bit of an fallacy of moderation. When one side is saying "Hey folks, please just try to be nicer. Here is also some tips to deal with this issue" and the other side is saying "Nah, just deal with it/Nah, talking nasty shit is just fine." There really isn't an answer besides "Stop saying nasty shit. This is a game, they didn't just smack you in the face." People ought to mature and making excuses for the behavior, whether that be "It just happens" or "Nah, it's okay that it does happen" and not "It's your fault for getting upset by this."

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Lie or not, let's not kid ourselves this stuff happens all the time in any sort of content in online communities and it needs to stop

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I'm sorry but the fault lies on the person who said the thing like a 13 year old, as chances are they ought to act their age (That is to say, there is never an appropriate age to tell someone to kill themselves) and not tell people to kill themselves.
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To the OP, thank you, you've made a very good PSA and initial post. The call for less toxic language in the FFXIV community (Or online really) is very reasonable and most people ought to respect that idea. Whether or not the actual incident occurred isn't important because it happens all the damn time, PvP, PvE, or just through minor interactions. This thread is filled with horrific misunderstandings of mental illness and or just blatant wrong and gross behavior towards people with mental health.

Also as a side note, lmao'ing at mirta for believing and saying right wing nationalist propaganda in response to Culfinrandir making a somewhat reasonable comparison to recent racism (particularly black focused racism) committed by the police, antisemitism in the south, and a homophobic mass murderer. Culfinrandir you're a pretty cool dude.