Is there any reason to focus on 'solo' players..?

[weeble]

i not saying not to solo, i'm saying they need to work out a system that works for both, but in a way where it makes it worth while to get a party going or no one will do it. only people that will be having fun in this game are solo's and people with real friends in the game or people who like statics rather then like me that probably play with new players, english and jp like 99% of the time in ffxi. had 8class 75 and most merited, that is alot of exp and all in party and all with new faces, made the game lot more enjoyable then with the same group.

like i said earlier, make each mob sp dependent on all the factors, solo or in party. not one or the other. most of ffxi player base had multiple classes by the end and i doubt they will even have them in this game if it was all about the solo.

though i do think making a game that keeps players trying the game and loving it is important and maybe being able to solo is part of that mix in the future. they def got the graphics up high enough for this. i think the problem is having a sp system for both solo and party separately is too much work or too complicated to do? i not sure cause i'm not a tec nerd or computer savvy for that matter.

[Janglo]

i not saying not to solo, i'm saying they need to work out a system that works for both, but in a way where it makes it worth while to get a party going or no one will do it. only people that will be having fun in this game are solo's and people with real friends in the game or people who like statics rather then like me that probably play with new players, english and jp like 99% of the time in ffxi. had 8class 75 and most merited, that is alot of exp and all in party and all with new faces, made the game lot more enjoyable then with the same group.

like i said earlier, make each mob sp dependent on all the factors, solo or in party. not one or the other. most of ffxi player base had multiple classes by the end and i doubt they will even have them in this game if it was all about the solo.

though i do think making a game that keeps players trying the game and loving it is important and maybe being able to solo is part of that mix in the future. they def got the graphics up high enough for this. i think the problem is having a sp system for both solo and party separately is too much work or too complicated to do? i not sure cause i'm not a tec nerd or computer savvy for that matter.

I'm fairly sure the sp system already accounts for solo/pt yeah?

[weeble]

also being in a ls that speaks u'r language doesn't help, i'm in a very large ls, pretty much full and it is still hard to put together more then a few people to grind, we are all different ranks. in ffxi the population took care of it all, was very easy to put a party together, if u was lfg for hours u probably should of took 5seconds to make one cause it always had players seeking. besides that and all love to my linkshell but i don't want to party with the same group for years, i'll get to know them threw the years, and i'll happily party with them, but the concept that i am gonna be party'ing with the same 6-10people for years is obserd. i don't think in a full ls in ffxi i party with my ls in 5years more then 5% of the time, and most of that time they were probably half afk, and leechers in them cause they think its ok to waist ls members time cause we all friends. this might be a notch for the solo, but i doubt half the players on our servers would get half the sp without there parties lmao.

[weeble]

to janglo, the answer is no. there is an account to having full 8man link leves or the very least enough people to make full links for bonus.

but for regular grind it don't seem enough to make people want to do it, less is more sp. and the mobs are still dobs and small mobs rather then the big ones. i've had a problems getting more then a few players everyday, and 8people = way less sp then same spot with 3-4people and hourly sp is way more with the lesser.

[Janglo]

to janglo, the answer is no. there is an account to having full 8man link leves or the very least enough people to make full links for bonus.

but for regular grind it don't seem enough to make people want to do it, less is more sp. and the mobs are still dobs and small mobs rather then the big ones. i've had a problems getting more then a few players everyday, and 8people = way less sp then same spot with 3-4people and hourly sp is way more with the lesser.

Ya the levelinking does allow for pt players to get better sp than a solo can still though right? I was hoping for a balance or closer to it. Also I'm not a solo player that expects to go as fast as pt just to be able to not feel like im grinding to death.

[weeble]

oh and on top that like say for instance a few days ago, we had a party of 5on dobs, sp was decent, but then with 4 was better, still killed the same, and with 3 was even better and still killed the same. having really good dps and a healer probably all that matters right now, 2archers and a thm or con can do more then any group set up with a tanks in my opinion. it's a zerg no matter how many or how few players there are.

[Wobble]

it's a zerg no matter how many or how few players there are.

And this is what broke 11 for me at the end. It was all about a bunch of people whacking at something and must have a brd and rdm. If you were not a straight DD, brd or rdm you were screwed out of a party.

[Dubont]

And this is what broke 11 for me at the end. It was all about a bunch of people whacking at something and must have a brd and rdm. If you were not a straight DD, brd or rdm you were screwed out of a party.

Not true. I played on Cor and BLM fairly frequently. Cor in Merit parties and BLM (or Cor) in burn parties. PUP had pup parties. The only thing that I can really see not having a decent party high up would be PLD or NIN, which was fine because they could just level sync. It wasn't as much of a problem as people think.

[Blitz0309]

Not true. I played on Cor and BLM fairly frequently. Cor in Merit parties and BLM (or Cor) in burn parties. PUP had pup parties. The only thing that I can really see not having a decent party high up would be PLD or NIN, which was fine because they could just level sync. It wasn't as much of a problem as people think.

It was a problem before level sync...

Hell when i deleveled with my pld i had to bribe people that i would switch to brd/sam/mnk/war/rdm after i got my level back with pld.

[Leonesaurus]

I don't understand why people, including you, keep consistently thinking that "solo" equates to "I only ever want to play alone and never group with with other people, forever" and that it's one and the same as playing single player, off line games.

The largest slice of the MMO customer pie is people who don't like having to rely on other people, but will occasionally group up with the LS/guild/friends. They like persistent worlds, they like being able to compare themselves to others, and they enjoy the social aspect of the game when it's not forced on them.

I hope for the sake of the game that they do not return to the early FFXI model of zero solo options. Something like that is going to ensure that it never recovers.

Agreed. I play like this now in a similar fashion. I do not like forced to group with people to enjoy the game's story and content. I like having the option to enjoy both avenues. If people don't like our preferences, then that's their problem.