2* hq macro (all nq mats/no rng skills) - Extremely high stats required

[Katlyna]

Interesting.... If I meld craftsmanship to my chest and finish making all my mainhand and offhand i195s I'll have more than that much Craftsman and CP without any soulstone or additional melds on my main/offhand (they would be blank) using onion soup. I melded one V materia to basically all my core gear except rings and then planned smart IV melds in slots 2 and 3, and III melds in slots 4 and 5 and was able to hit those marks.

Thanks for the post!

[Espritduo]

Interesting.... If I meld craftsmanship to my chest and finish making all my mainhand and offhand i195s I'll have more than those stats without any soulstone or additonal melds on my main/offhand (they would be blank) using onion soup. I melded one V materia to basically all my core gear except rings and then planned smart IV melds in slots 2 and 3, and III melds in slots 4 and 5 and was able to hit those marks.

Thanks for the post!

Really? Pretty sure you can't come anywhere near 1004 Craftsmanship, 1018 Control and 474 CP with the melds you mentioned, as well as using non-control food and no soulstone. The second link I provided is the bare minimum melds to hit them, and everything, including MH/OH's, is pentamelded with V's in every 100% slot.

[blueruckus]

Really? Pretty sure you can't come anywhere near 1004 Craftsmanship, 1018 Control and 474 CP with the melds you mentioned, as well as using non-control food and no soulstone. The second link I provided is the bare minimum melds to hit them, and everything, including MH/OH's, is pentamelded with V's in every 100% slot.

I agree with you. I put V in all my guaranteed slots and capped pretty much almost everything except chest and tools. Tools I only did IVs because there's so many to meld. That said I ended up with around 1036 craft, 945ish control, and max CP (with soul). No food.

I put craft on my tools to test out new macro possibilities but I may remeld some control if there isn't a worthwhile craft threshold. With the unknown of upcoming 4 star, I just feel safer running with higher craftsmanship though.

[Sparda511]

Interesting.... If I meld craftsmanship to my chest and finish making all my mainhand and offhand i195s I'll have more than those stats without any soulstone or additonal melds on my main/offhand (they would be blank) using onion soup. I melded one V materia to basically all my core gear except rings and then planned smart IV melds in slots 2 and 3, and III melds in slots 4 and 5 and was able to hit those marks.

Thanks for the post!

can u provide a link from Ariyala showing the melds u think would hit that stats >>> im a bit bad at melds thats why im asking ^_^

[AaronHughes]

If anyone wants to try and make a rotation using Name + Brand I've gone ahead and done the hard part for you. 1087 crafts needed

[tayler1480]

Image isn't working so link here should work: http://imgur.com/s1JVLad

When I want to add an image to the post, I click insert image then copy & paste url e.g. "https://imgur.com/1Fyspqx" but in order to make the image appear you need to add an "i." & image type (I always use ".png") to the url. So you go from e.g.

"http://imgur.com/s1JVLad" -----> "http://i.imgur.com/s1JVLad.png"

Nicely done on improving the macro & when I get on tomorrow I'll PM you & give you 1M gil for helping out ^^

[_Kakera_]

I decided to work off the other minimum melds and I slightly edited the Ariyala build to fit 1007/1001/480 (for the rotation above). I removed as many Vs as I could, and in the end it would only need 10 Vs; 1 Control V and 9 Craftsmanship Vs (as they're the less expensive ones between Control and Craftsmanship).

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/UGOD

[AishaNymph]

Interesting.... If I meld craftsmanship to my chest and finish making all my mainhand and offhand i195s I'll have more than that much Craftsman and CP without any soulstone or additional melds on my main/offhand (they would be blank) using onion soup. I melded one V materia to basically all my core gear except rings and then planned smart IV melds in slots 2 and 3, and III melds in slots 4 and 5 and was able to hit those marks.

Thanks for the post!

I am sure those stats can't be reached with the meld you described

even max control meld (without soul stone and melding in tools) can only reached 937 control before food buff
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/UGPJ

unless you only concern to reach the craftsmanship and not the control as well

[Katlyna]

Corrected my post I meant craftsman and CP can be reached without a soulstone or main/offhandmelds (which are core to making the rotation function). You cannot hit the control at the same time without a stone, food buff, or something extra.

[Katlyna]

NOTE Below post is defunct since Brands have a 10% chance to fail (which was a poor choice by SE)

Here is a different approach using the same number of basic touches, ingenuity II and innovation. This would require the same super high control (1017) but is going to require much less craftsmanship. And less CP. The skill lineup is much different though so you would need a macro lineup to swap cross class skills (if you don't use one already). UNFORTUNATELY this also won't work since the brands only have a 90% chance to succeed... so much for this approach



Note this hinges on the fact that ingenuity II + brand apparently nets more progress than muscle memory. I haven't tested this out yes but I believe its accurate. I'm still poking at the rotation as it has some interesting potential.