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    Yeah, lets throw all the GCD comparison on the window by adding an OGCD to the equation. Thats how it works, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zuzu-bq View Post
    Yeah, lets throw all the GCD comparison on the window by adding an OGCD to the equation. Thats how it works, right?
    Yeah because we get to prove our biased point by putting arbitrary restrictions on what can and can not be compared. Because thats how it works right?

    Quote Originally Posted by giantslayer View Post
    Helios = Medica = Succor = Noct Helios (300 potency)
    Benefic II = Cure II = Adlo = Noct Benefic (650/600 potency)
    Diurnal Helios = Medica II (600-700 potency HoT)
    Diurnal Benefic = Regen (980-1050 potency HoT)

    *Note that I am using the = sign but I really mean approximately equal (can't find that squiggly = sign on my keyboard).

    What seems to have been overlooked is that Succor is Scholar's version of Medica and Adlo is Scholar's version of Cure II. Nocturnal AST having access to both other healers' versions of basically the same skill isn't really that useful. Diurnal has 4 distinct healing spells and Nocturnal has two flavors of 2 distinct healing spells (not counting Benefic 1).
    Also this is a whole lot of nope.

    Helios=Medica=/=succor=/= Noct Helios. If you try and use succor as a medica or helios, you are doing something so very very very very wrong. They dont have the same functionality. Succor is not there to heal people up after an aoe UNLESS it is combined with emergency tactics. Also how in the love of anything can helios=nocturnal helios? Are we actually talking about aspected helios here? More clarification please. Comparing raw potencies with shield+heal potency does not work as they dont have the same functionality.

    Benefic II=Cure II = physik+embrace =/=adlo=/=noct benefic. Functionality of adlo and noct aspected benefic are not the same as cure II or benefic II. Also again, how on earth can Benefic II = Noct aspected Benefic? They are not used the same at all, ever........

    The other two comparisons, yeah they work.

    And where are the fairies abilites when factoring in all this? How can you compare SCH WHM and AST when the fairy isnt being factored in at all.

    So you say Nocturnal AST having access to Helios and Noct Helios isnt that useful. How useful do you find succor and Indomnibility on SCH? I understand one is an oGCD heal, but its used to heal the same amount as Helios (not taking into account the 5% sect bonus).
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    Last edited by DarkmoonVael; 06-07-2016 at 05:39 PM.