is selling housing bannable?

[Kazza2003]

I mean from my point of view it should not be ban-able. You brought the plot, invested a lot of money into it and certainly decided you don't need it anymore or just need the money for something else. So why ban someone who want to give someone else the opportunity to acquire a plot? If SE wants to stop it they should implement a system, where people who want to get "rid" of their plot get a compensation to do so. Either 100% the current price back or at least somewhat of a compensation. As long as SE does not come up with such a system, people will continue to sell the plots they "rightfully" own.

[Lexia]

I mean from my point of view it should not be ban-able. You brought the plot, invested a lot of money into it and certainly decided you don't need it anymore or just need the money for something else. So why ban someone who want to give someone else the opportunity to acquire a plot? If SE wants to stop it they should implement a system, where people who want to get "rid" of their plot get a compensation to do so. Either 100% the current price back or at least somewhat of a compensation. As long as SE does not come up with such a system, people will continue to sell the plots they "rightfully" own.

We not talking about John Doe over here that decides they don't want their house any more, we talking about Fluffy mcd#*#wad that only buying empty plots to turn around and resell for 3x the plot price which is why it up to the GM whether they issue a warning on the person account.

[Morzy]

I mean from my greedy point of view it should not be ban-able. You brought the plot, invested a lot of money into it and certainly decided you don't need it anymore or just need the money for something else. So why ban someone who want to offer someone else the opportunity to acquire a plot for a lot of gil? If SE wants to stop it they should implement a system, where people who want to get "rid" of their plot get a compensation to do so. Either 100% the current price back or at least somewhat of a compensation. As long as SE does not come up with such a system, people will continue to sell the plots they "rightfully" own.

I fixed that for you.

If you want compensation, wait for the auto-demolishing system to take effect, don't sit here and tell me you can't get compensation, it's been available since 2015.

[Kabzy]

If you want compensation, wait for the auto-demolishing system to take effect, don't sit here and tell me you can't get compensation, it's been available since 2015.

I might not need my medium plot soon, auto-demolition has been put on hold and SE have provided us with no way to relinquish our land. Not all of us are looking to profit, if I was to 'sell' my land I would only want what I paid for it. The lack of features implemented towards these aspects of housing are not the players fault, so like any commodity in game it should be allowed to go on sale.

People who buy multiple houses with the intent to resell are a lot worse, but stating that no one should be allowed to sell regardless of their circumstances is a little silly. Desperation is making the communtiy angry, but not everything is a bannable offence.

[Lexia]

I might not need my medium plot soon, auto-demolition has been put on hold and SE have provided us with no way to relinquish our land. Not all of us are looking to profit, if I was to 'sell' my land I would only want what I paid for it. The lack of features implemented towards these aspects of housing are not the players fault, so like any commodity in game it should be allowed to go on sale.

I could see that prior to the patch but now that 3.3 is here now houses are not worth what you paid for. A medium house was 37 million for best grade plot is now only 20 million. So even though you paid more originally you still asking for person to pay more for house then what they worth now.

[Kabzy]

I could see that prior to the patch but now that 3.3 is here now houses are not worth what you paid for. A medium house was 37 million for best grade plot is now only 20 million. So even though you paid more originally you still asking for person to pay more for house then what they worth now.

Then they could buy the plot after for the new, reduced price. My conscience can still be clear because I didn't profit from anything. The alternative would be a house sitting there for many months being unused, while there are many people out there who are willing to pay for the plot. That's quite the opposite of being a 'nuisance' to players, because you're actually opening up an unused plot to someone/an FC who otherwise did not have one. Again, I'm not saying this is completely fair but with the lack of demolition options, there's not much else to do.

My main point here is that I don't think selling in general should be so frowned upon, because there will be people like me who just have ONE plot that they want to get rid off. It's not hard to distinguish between someone who is doing that, and someone who is buying like 8 plots with alts.

[eschaton]

Rumor has it there are individuals ready to buy almost an entire ward worth of houses for themselves. That is to say; one ward, for one player (alts). Pretty darn impressive, to be honest. First it was the grapevine, now there even are posts about it on bulletin boards like Reddit. Impressive.

[Reinha]

I might not need my medium plot soon, auto-demolition has been put on hold and SE have provided us with no way to relinquish our land. Not all of us are looking to profit, if I was to 'sell' my land I would only want what I paid for it.

You do have a way to relinquish land. Just open the menus and do it. That's what I did. Ask around from your friends, linkshells and fc if there's anyone who doesn't have a house.

If you were to get what you paid for a medium house, the buyer would have to pay as much as a large house costs for your medium house since he/she has to also buy the land from the game. Every time the land is repurchased someone loses the plot buying fee. Trying to make someone else handle the gil-sink mechanic is not right nor intended, because if it were intended the houses would be directly sellable via trade. When people "only" ask for what they paid for, the price goes up after every relinquish. From the buyers point of view it makes no difference if it's a housing hoarder or a 5th owner of the land asking for that 5x price. It's still overpriced compared to the original price in game.

[Celef]

You do have a way to relinquish land. Just open the menus and do it. That's what I did. Ask around from your friends, linkshells and fc if there's anyone who doesn't have a house.

If you were to get what you paid for a medium house, the buyer would have to pay as much as a large house costs for your medium house since he/she has to also buy the land from the game. Every time the land is repurchased someone loses the plot buying fee. Trying to make someone else handle the gil-sink mechanic is not right nor intended, because if it were intended the houses would be directly sellable via trade. When people "only" ask for what they paid for, the price goes up after every relinquish. From the buyers point of view it makes no difference if it's a housing hoarder or a 5th owner of the land asking for that 5x price. It's still overpriced compared to the original price in game.

And trus me, we are a lot on cerberus who don't have houses !

[Roth_Trailfinder]

I mean from my point of view it should not be ban-able. You brought the plot, invested a lot of money into it and certainly decided you don't need it anymore or just need the money for something else. So why ban someone who want to give someone else the opportunity to acquire a plot? If SE wants to stop it they should implement a system, where people who want to get "rid" of their plot get a compensation to do so. Either 100% the current price back or at least somewhat of a compensation. As long as SE does not come up with such a system, people will continue to sell the plots they "rightfully" own.

As others have stated in this thread, YOUR (and mine, for that matter) point of view isn't relevant. What matters is what the GM says.