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    Aramyth's Avatar
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    Is it banable? How is this any different than selling any other in game items for Gil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramyth View Post
    Is it banable? How is this any different than selling any other in game items for Gil?
    ^ this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramyth View Post
    Is it banable? How is this any different than selling any other in game items for Gil?
    .. Probably that it's not even a in game item? One could argue it's disruptive to the community.
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    Morzone Vandalfo on Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramyth View Post
    Is it banable? How is this any different than selling any other in game items for Gil?
    Well it not really bannable but can get a warning on your acccount which can lead to a ban if get enough warnings. It because housing is limited as most other items in the game are infinite and can be obtained without having to to through a reseller. Plus they not actually selling the plot as you still have to buy the plot from the system after giving the person gil to give it up.
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    Aranie Crowley
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramyth View Post
    Is it banable? How is this any different than selling any other in game items for Gil?
    Because you are not supposed to do it in the way housing was created, thus it's kind of a "bug exploit" (and some people buy so many houses just for reselling that it screws the game for others and is considered as a nuissance regarding the TOS)
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    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

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    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramyth View Post
    Is it banable? How is this any different than selling any other in game items for Gil?
    Because you don't buy an item. You only pay someone millions so that he burn down his house, and then millions again to buy the plot before someone else do it.
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    Ciel Valke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramyth View Post
    Is it banable? How is this any different than selling any other in game items for Gil?
    It's not the same. You're not selling the house itself. You're selling the chance to buy the house.

    Technically, it's as if someone bought the last pie at the supermarket, then you had to pay that person 5-10 times the price they paid for it so they'll put it back on the counter for you to buy at its original price. It's technically blackmail, and no 100% guarantee that someone else won't walk by and buy the pie while you're not looking.

    That, and it's leading to some very shady behavior, like people going in a pair to a house and having one person spam trade requests to an honest buyer while their friend grabs the house, to then resell the right to buy it for several times the original price.

    There's absolutely nothing that can really defend this makeshift system. Not even the fact that the housing system is flawed. You're encouraging the most toxic behavior in this game by trying to justify it, when everyone should instead be reporting it at much as possible to show their discontent with it.

    Lastly, if you're desperate enough for a house that you'd encourage the kind of behavior that's keeping you from getting one in the first place, then you're also a part of the problem.
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    Last edited by Zelas; 06-07-2016 at 01:06 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rswfire View Post
    I asked a GM about this a few months ago after browsing the subreddit for housing. Their answer was that there is no in-game mechanic that allows you to actually sell/trade your house to someone else. You don't really sell your house. Someone gives you gil, and you drop the house so they can then buy it. That's just not a real trade.
    So the same would apply to run/pony sales, off MB sales over 1M gil, player casinos, and any other player created exchange.

    But in the end there's a nice catch-all in the ToS, saying it's their game, they do what they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    So the same would apply to run/pony sales, off MB sales over 1M gil, player casinos, and any other player created exchange.

    But in the end there's a nice catch-all in the ToS, saying it's their game, they do what they want.
    Aren't player casinos reportable already? I think there was a thread.
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