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    Cwestcott18's Avatar
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    Cecilia Archelot
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    It is only bannable because the Eorozean Housing Union hasn't approved real estate licenses
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    Aranie Crowley
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramyth View Post
    Is it banable? How is this any different than selling any other in game items for Gil?
    Because you are not supposed to do it in the way housing was created, thus it's kind of a "bug exploit" (and some people buy so many houses just for reselling that it screws the game for others and is considered as a nuissance regarding the TOS)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    bad game design
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  4. #14
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    Morzone Vandalfo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inori-Yuzuriha View Post
    bad game design
    Users exploiting said "bad game design"..

    Why can't people find other ways to make gil instead of making it harder for others trying to obtain a limited supply of housing plots. Oh, right, a combination of being greedy and lazy.
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    Morzone Vandalfo on Siren
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    PS5 based. PSN ID: natek_morzy

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    Draelon Eldad
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    IIRC this argument and discussion has been going on for a while. You can be banned for doing it, it depends on the GM. People are locking down houses and flipping them for very high prices, THAT is considered distruptive behavior and IS against TOS and can have actions taken against your account. Selling in game items for Gil is NOT against ToS, that would be stupid and we would all be banned. The reason why a lot of ppl do it is where the violation comes in, I think that really needs to be made clear.

    Again it is up to the discretion of the GM and with all of the work that some of us put into our characters, it really isn't worth taking the chance of it even if the person means well.
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  6. #16
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    Saori Kobayashi
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    I mean from my point of view it should not be ban-able. You brought the plot, invested a lot of money into it and certainly decided you don't need it anymore or just need the money for something else. So why ban someone who want to give someone else the opportunity to acquire a plot? If SE wants to stop it they should implement a system, where people who want to get "rid" of their plot get a compensation to do so. Either 100% the current price back or at least somewhat of a compensation. As long as SE does not come up with such a system, people will continue to sell the plots they "rightfully" own.
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    Lena Oxton
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morzy View Post
    Users exploiting said "bad game design"..

    Why can't people find other ways to make gil instead of making it harder for others trying to obtain a limited supply of housing plots. Oh, right, a combination of being greedy and lazy.
    Well they could either sell it, or just not give it up since they won't get anything back for it. If they choose not to sell it, you still can't buy the house. Just because people don't understand supply and demand is no reason to dislike the people that can work a good business system. I'm not for or against it, just stating an opinion.
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  8. #18
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazza2003 View Post
    I mean from my point of view it should not be ban-able. You brought the plot, invested a lot of money into it and certainly decided you don't need it anymore or just need the money for something else. So why ban someone who want to give someone else the opportunity to acquire a plot? If SE wants to stop it they should implement a system, where people who want to get "rid" of their plot get a compensation to do so. Either 100% the current price back or at least somewhat of a compensation. As long as SE does not come up with such a system, people will continue to sell the plots they "rightfully" own.
    We not talking about John Doe over here that decides they don't want their house any more, we talking about Fluffy mcd#*#wad that only buying empty plots to turn around and resell for 3x the plot price which is why it up to the GM whether they issue a warning on the person account.
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    Morzone Vandalfo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazza2003 View Post
    I mean from my greedy point of view it should not be ban-able. You brought the plot, invested a lot of money into it and certainly decided you don't need it anymore or just need the money for something else. So why ban someone who want to offer someone else the opportunity to acquire a plot for a lot of gil? If SE wants to stop it they should implement a system, where people who want to get "rid" of their plot get a compensation to do so. Either 100% the current price back or at least somewhat of a compensation. As long as SE does not come up with such a system, people will continue to sell the plots they "rightfully" own.
    I fixed that for you.

    If you want compensation, wait for the auto-demolishing system to take effect, don't sit here and tell me you can't get compensation, it's been available since 2015.
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    Morzone Vandalfo on Siren
    Main job: SCH/MNK
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    PS5 based. PSN ID: natek_morzy

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    Roth Trailfinder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazza2003 View Post
    I mean from my point of view it should not be ban-able. You brought the plot, invested a lot of money into it and certainly decided you don't need it anymore or just need the money for something else. So why ban someone who want to give someone else the opportunity to acquire a plot? If SE wants to stop it they should implement a system, where people who want to get "rid" of their plot get a compensation to do so. Either 100% the current price back or at least somewhat of a compensation. As long as SE does not come up with such a system, people will continue to sell the plots they "rightfully" own.
    As others have stated in this thread, YOUR (and mine, for that matter) point of view isn't relevant. What matters is what the GM says.
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